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Most of what you said applies to the UK as well, for what it's worth.

eterm 2y ago
It really doesn't, that's Fox news level of propaganda. Does the UK have an issue with over-policing of twitter? Absolutely it does. Are the tightening of protest laws concerning? Yes, very much so. But it's nothing like the rhetoric and destruction of due process happening in the USA.
- lucasRW 2y ago
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sofixa 2y ago
Does it now, dear whatabouter? People are getting arrested and deported with no due process for expressing opinions? The UK government is rewriting history to remove women and gays? No, you're just confusing the existence of hate crimes in UK law, and maybe the dumb migrant detention in Rwanda scheme (which has since been cancelled), both of which have due process, are public, and ridiculous to compare.
- johnisgood 2y ago
  You missed the first word of my comment. Additionally, yeah there have been "social media offenses" in the recent years. Individuals have been arrested for comments made on social media platforms. Try it out. Communications Act 2003 come to mind. Are people not entitled to lawyers in the US? In any case, there is authority overreach in both countries (and more).
marcuschong 2y ago
While there is legitimate debate over how authoritarian some policies in Australia or the UK might be in the past few years, these measures operate within established legal frameworks, with judicial oversight and public scrutiny. Even if you view them as overly restrictive, they don't stem from a single "contrarian" movement with a coordinated political agenda. Moreover, neither government is rewriting history to erase specific groups. The fact that hate-speech or migration laws exist doesn’t equate to people being arrested or deported without due process, nor does it imply some monolithic campaign to censor or remove entire populations from the record.
- johnisgood 2y ago
  You are right, the UK adores mass migration, look around larger cities, such as London or Birmingham. :)
  - labster 2y ago
    If the UK didn’t want immigrants, they shouldn’t have colonized half the world and took their stuff
    - johnisgood 2y ago
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      - lizmat 2y ago
        Everybody is entitled to their opinion, whether they'd be Raku developers or not.
        labster 2y ago
        Hi Liz! Looks like it’s time to update my profile, sadly I’m doing more PHP and Lua these days (wish it was Raku, it’s much better, but that’s how it goes)
        johnisgood 2y ago
        They are, and I am entitled to not associate with them in any way, and tell others to do the same, for this specific comment alone. It says a lot about his views. Like seriously, because the UK a long time tried to conquer parts of the world, mass migration to the UK today is somehow OK? Slavery should be OK, too, according to him, then, since all races have been enslaved at some point in time of history. It is extremely poor reasoning, in poor taste. You should know better.
        labster 2y ago
        My comment made zero moral judgements. History has consequences. Spreading the English language to over a billion people while enriching Britain means a lot of people will want to live in a rich place where they can speak the language, for generations to come. Whether immigration is good or bad is kind of irrelevant to the argument.

It really doesn't, that's Fox news level of propaganda. Does the UK have an issue with over-policing of twitter? Absolutely it does. Are the tightening of protest laws concerning? Yes, very much so. But it's nothing like the rhetoric and destruction of due process happening in the USA.

lucasRW 2y ago
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sofixa 2y ago

Does it now, dear whatabouter? People are getting arrested and deported with no due process for expressing opinions? The UK government is rewriting history to remove women and gays? No, you're just confusing the existence of hate crimes in UK law, and maybe the dumb migrant detention in Rwanda scheme (which has since been cancelled), both of which have due process, are public, and ridiculous to compare.

johnisgood 2y ago
You missed the first word of my comment. Additionally, yeah there have been "social media offenses" in the recent years. Individuals have been arrested for comments made on social media platforms. Try it out. Communications Act 2003 come to mind. Are people not entitled to lawyers in the US? In any case, there is authority overreach in both countries (and more).

marcuschong 2y ago

While there is legitimate debate over how authoritarian some policies in Australia or the UK might be in the past few years, these measures operate within established legal frameworks, with judicial oversight and public scrutiny. Even if you view them as overly restrictive, they don't stem from a single "contrarian" movement with a coordinated political agenda. Moreover, neither government is rewriting history to erase specific groups. The fact that hate-speech or migration laws exist doesn’t equate to people being arrested or deported without due process, nor does it imply some monolithic campaign to censor or remove entire populations from the record.

johnisgood 2y ago
You are right, the UK adores mass migration, look around larger cities, such as London or Birmingham. :)
- labster 2y ago
  If the UK didn’t want immigrants, they shouldn’t have colonized half the world and took their stuff
  - johnisgood 2y ago
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    - lizmat 2y ago
      Everybody is entitled to their opinion, whether they'd be Raku developers or not.
      - labster 2y ago
        Hi Liz! Looks like it’s time to update my profile, sadly I’m doing more PHP and Lua these days (wish it was Raku, it’s much better, but that’s how it goes)
      - johnisgood 2y ago
        They are, and I am entitled to not associate with them in any way, and tell others to do the same, for this specific comment alone. It says a lot about his views. Like seriously, because the UK a long time tried to conquer parts of the world, mass migration to the UK today is somehow OK? Slavery should be OK, too, according to him, then, since all races have been enslaved at some point in time of history. It is extremely poor reasoning, in poor taste. You should know better.
        labster 2y ago
        My comment made zero moral judgements. History has consequences. Spreading the English language to over a billion people while enriching Britain means a lot of people will want to live in a rich place where they can speak the language, for generations to come. Whether immigration is good or bad is kind of irrelevant to the argument.