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Aren't Cyber trucks by Tesla? And FSD is basically here which means robotaxis are basically here. Now there are just regulatory hurdles and the long tail.

watwut 2y ago
"Basically here" and "actually here" tend to be decades apart ... especially in Musks case. Tho, I think another company can be actually capable to make them actually working.
ben_w 2y ago
He made much the same claim 6 years ago: https://www.inverse.com/science/55141-elon-musk-autonomous-driving https://www.inverse.com/science/55141-elon-musk-autonomous-d... """“I feel very confident predicting autonomous robo taxis for Tesla by next year. Not in all jurisdictions, because we won’t have regulatory approval everywhere. But we will have regulatory approval at least at some point next year,” Musk said toward the end of the presentation. “From our standpoint, if you fast forward a year, maybe a year in three months, but next year for sure, we will have over a million robo taxis on the road.”""" - Musk, April 2019
dns_snek 2y ago
In what sense of the word "basically" are the FSD and robotaxis "basically" here? Tesla FSD is a level 2 autonomic system that requires constant supervision, robotaxis would require level 4/5 autonomy. That's not even close to becoming reality.
- haliskerbas 2y ago
  FSD ran a red light last week. But later today I’ll be heading out in a Waymo robotaxi which will actually be here.
panick21_ 2y ago
Quite a claim. FSD in practice is nowhere close to actually being able to do robotaxi operations. So its not really a regulatory burden, other then regulatory actually checking if it works.
jcranmer 2y ago
> Aren't Cyber trucks by Tesla? GP is referring to Tesla's promise to build electric semi trucks, not the pickup truck that Cybertruck is. > And FSD is basically here which means robotaxis are basically here. Now there are just regulatory hurdles and the long tail. AIUI, Tesla FSD is at best Level 3 automation (probably more like Level 2), which means it requires constant driver supervision to keep the car from committing suicide. That's pretty far from being "basically here", especially since Tesla seems extremely loth to accept any responsibility for FSD-related crashes.
- FreebasingLLMs 2y ago
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- kube-system 2y ago
  FSD is level 2, because the human driver is required to pay attention and intervene at all times. https://www.sae.org/binaries/content/gallery/cm/content/news/sae-blog/j3016graphic_2021.png https://www.sae.org/binaries/content/gallery/cm/content/news...

watwut 2y ago

"Basically here" and "actually here" tend to be decades apart ... especially in Musks case. Tho, I think another company can be actually capable to make them actually working.

ben_w 2y ago

He made much the same claim 6 years ago: https://www.inverse.com/science/55141-elon-musk-autonomous-driving https://www.inverse.com/science/55141-elon-musk-autonomous-d... """“I feel very confident predicting autonomous robo taxis for Tesla by next year. Not in all jurisdictions, because we won’t have regulatory approval everywhere. But we will have regulatory approval at least at some point next year,” Musk said toward the end of the presentation. “From our standpoint, if you fast forward a year, maybe a year in three months, but next year for sure, we will have over a million robo taxis on the road.”""" - Musk, April 2019

dns_snek 2y ago

In what sense of the word "basically" are the FSD and robotaxis "basically" here? Tesla FSD is a level 2 autonomic system that requires constant supervision, robotaxis would require level 4/5 autonomy. That's not even close to becoming reality.

haliskerbas 2y ago
FSD ran a red light last week. But later today I’ll be heading out in a Waymo robotaxi which will actually be here.

panick21_ 2y ago

Quite a claim. FSD in practice is nowhere close to actually being able to do robotaxi operations. So its not really a regulatory burden, other then regulatory actually checking if it works.

jcranmer 2y ago

> Aren't Cyber trucks by Tesla? GP is referring to Tesla's promise to build electric semi trucks, not the pickup truck that Cybertruck is. > And FSD is basically here which means robotaxis are basically here. Now there are just regulatory hurdles and the long tail. AIUI, Tesla FSD is at best Level 3 automation (probably more like Level 2), which means it requires constant driver supervision to keep the car from committing suicide. That's pretty far from being "basically here", especially since Tesla seems extremely loth to accept any responsibility for FSD-related crashes.

FreebasingLLMs 2y ago
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kube-system 2y ago
FSD is level 2, because the human driver is required to pay attention and intervene at all times. https://www.sae.org/binaries/content/gallery/cm/content/news/sae-blog/j3016graphic_2021.png https://www.sae.org/binaries/content/gallery/cm/content/news...