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> I'm also 100% convinced Microsoft will introduce mandatory code signing at some point and make it so that you can only ever install software from Windows Stor

> I'm also 100% convinced Microsoft will introduce mandatory code signing at some point and make it so that you can only ever install software from Windows Store 2017 called. It wants Windows S Mode back. Needless to say it still isn't very popular. But this has been around for <checks notes> 8 years now

samiv 2y ago
Yep, the technology is already there. Just a question of time before they flip the switch for good and force it down everyone's throat and call it "enhanced security and user experience".
- throwaway48476 2y ago
  Windows S failed hard so they have a new strategy. Every new CPU ships with M$'s Pluton root of trust. For 'security' everything will have to be signed. They consider the user to be the threat actor. Eventually they will charge a percsnt fee for using their signing service.
  - erikerikson 2y ago
    Have you met my mother in law? She really is.
  - donnachangstein 2y ago
    This sounds like the UEFI Secure Boot FUD from > 10 years ago. That also didn't turn out like they predicted.
    - throwaway48476 2y ago
      The desire for control never went away.
      - octacat 2y ago
        The moment they roll it as mandatory - people would stop updating.
- ranger_danger 2y ago
  There are so many legacy apps being used in the corporate world, I don't see this realistically ever happening.
  - 3np 2y ago
    So just make that feature exclusive for enterprise versions and reduce the ease for private individuals to obtain one.
KeplerBoy 2y ago
I actually would consider S Mode if it supported steam and it's games. For serious computing I boot into Linux anyways.
- ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
  For serious gaming, I use my Linux powered Steam Deck
swat535 2y ago
Where is the EU when you need it? It’s only a matter of time before Microsoft forces everyone with local accounts to switch to a Microsoft Account just to access their own machines. I wouldn’t be surprised if, in the future, local accounts are completely disabled, except maybe on specialized enterprise versions of the OS. I'm exhausted by the anti-consumer behavior of American companies, constantly restricting user choice and access, undermining privacy, and hiking up prices, all in the name of "profit".
- samiv 2y ago
  Profit? You mean "enhanced security and user experience"? /s
pxoe 2y ago
It's been near a decade of them trying and failing (or over a decade, if one'd look at windows 8 and its apps as part of some plan), that at some point this 'what if they lock everything down!!' thing just sounds like a FUD, which is kinda ironic. And the 'they're locking down installs!!' thing too, every time they make a change it gets to the front page here, and yet it still remains circumventable (just use Rufus). Years have gone by and the actual "locking down" of it still hasn't arrived.

samiv 2y ago

Yep, the technology is already there. Just a question of time before they flip the switch for good and force it down everyone's throat and call it "enhanced security and user experience".

throwaway48476 2y ago
Windows S failed hard so they have a new strategy. Every new CPU ships with M$'s Pluton root of trust. For 'security' everything will have to be signed. They consider the user to be the threat actor. Eventually they will charge a percsnt fee for using their signing service.
- erikerikson 2y ago
  Have you met my mother in law? She really is.
- donnachangstein 2y ago
  This sounds like the UEFI Secure Boot FUD from > 10 years ago. That also didn't turn out like they predicted.
  - throwaway48476 2y ago
    The desire for control never went away.
    - octacat 2y ago
      The moment they roll it as mandatory - people would stop updating.
ranger_danger 2y ago
There are so many legacy apps being used in the corporate world, I don't see this realistically ever happening.
- 3np 2y ago
  So just make that feature exclusive for enterprise versions and reduce the ease for private individuals to obtain one.

KeplerBoy 2y ago

I actually would consider S Mode if it supported steam and it's games. For serious computing I boot into Linux anyways.

ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
For serious gaming, I use my Linux powered Steam Deck

swat535 2y ago

Where is the EU when you need it? It’s only a matter of time before Microsoft forces everyone with local accounts to switch to a Microsoft Account just to access their own machines. I wouldn’t be surprised if, in the future, local accounts are completely disabled, except maybe on specialized enterprise versions of the OS. I'm exhausted by the anti-consumer behavior of American companies, constantly restricting user choice and access, undermining privacy, and hiking up prices, all in the name of "profit".

samiv 2y ago
Profit? You mean "enhanced security and user experience"? /s

pxoe 2y ago

It's been near a decade of them trying and failing (or over a decade, if one'd look at windows 8 and its apps as part of some plan), that at some point this 'what if they lock everything down!!' thing just sounds like a FUD, which is kinda ironic. And the 'they're locking down installs!!' thing too, every time they make a change it gets to the front page here, and yet it still remains circumventable (just use Rufus). Years have gone by and the actual "locking down" of it still hasn't arrived.