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X users are now officially just training data for Grok.
by saltysalt 2y ago
X users are now officially just training data for Grok.
- SV_BubbleTime 2y agoAs opposed to Reddit? Or your Gmail? Or everything else on the internet?
- saltysalt 2y agoI take your point, however an AI company owning a social media platform is new.
- fzzzy 2y agoNot really, Facebook (Meta, whatever) has been an ai company for a long time.
- swat535 2y agoSam owns Reddit and OpenAI.. how is that new? Google also owns Gmail and all Google Services , as well as its AI.
- saltysalt 2y agoOpenAI does not own a social network. Google doesn't even own a social network anymore. Neither are valid comparisons to xAI owning X.
- miohtama 2y agoGoogle owns half of the emails in the world which may be more valuable.
- saltysalt 2y agoEmail is not a realtime social network, not even close.
- nothrowaways 2y agoDoes Google train AI on emails?
- whats_a_quasar 2y agoAnd also Sam Altman doesn't own either OpenAI or Reddit, lol.
- rvba 2y agoMy understanding is that Google "owns" reddit in the sense that they paid to use it as source of training data. And goodle paid reddit so much that they have exclusive rights for that. Probably this is the reason why all the reddit free public APIs are gone - to block scraping.
- bag_boy 2y agoCan you cite your sources on Altman not owning Reddit?
- spiderice 2y agoThe comment you just wrote is training data for every major LLM out there.
- madeofpalk 2y agoI presume they officially were before. And just unofficially for every other model, as all our posts online are.
- saltysalt 2y agoIndeed!
- maxlin 2y agoWith that logic Github, StackOverflow, rest of internet is also "only" training data. X just produces extra valuable training data as a byproduct. Like power plants create certain byproducts that can be sold etc. Good to see it going to Grok primarily, as other LLM's are far from being truth seeking with their built-in, documented, extreme bias.
- saltysalt 2y agoNone of the companies you mentioned are owned by a private AI company, except X. I can't think of any other example of an AI company owning it's own social network, it's a fresh precedent.
- maxlin 2y agoThat is irrelevant to the invalidity of your original statement. LLM's clearly don't have problems having their training data scraped from all those mentioned irregardless of their ownership.
- saltysalt 2y agoMy original statement was from the perspective of the users, not the LLMs. Perfectly valid to empathize with them.
- maxlin 2y agoNo it isn't ok to patronize X users with a false precedent. X and Grok work very well together, one can ask questions and get relevant, and RECENT posts by X users answering that query, something other LLM's can't really do. Content created by X users is for X users to find either through their feed, basic search, or Grok. There's no foul play here, and how Grok uses data on X is not hard to defend even from a basic "better search" angle. Your "emphatize" comment sounds like "will someone think of the african children" kind of detached waste of breath, something the Chinese call "Baizuo".