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Actually, when literal communists run your government, you become China-rich, as OP put it. Contrast China's economic development with that of India's post 1950
by RUnconcerned 2y ago
Actually, when literal communists run your government, you become China-rich, as OP put it. Contrast China's economic development with that of India's post 1950.
- zozbot234 2y agoChina is the best case, yes. But "literal communists" also ran Cambodia, North Korea, Cuba etc. Not so good!
- ryoshoe 2y agoHaiti is capitalist but people don't use it an example for capitalism as a whole. More important than a stated ideology is whether a government is corrupt
- RobotToaster 2y agoCuba is doing pretty well for a country under one of the biggest and longest blockades in history.
- pphysch 2y agoIt's only fair to compare them to other victims of unprovoked Western aggression, like Libya. In that arena, they are actually doing relatively well, and imagine how successful they could be without the "global policeman's" boot on their neck.
- fakedang 2y agoSeems like the secret to prosperity is actually nuclear weapons. Rush to get those first, then focus on whatever shit you actually want to do.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoCuba is doing much better than its neighbors
- satvikpendem 2y agoCompare the policies and results of Deng to Mao, the latter is more "literally communist." Their embracing of capitalist principles is what enabled their boom, same with Vietnam with their Đổi Mới policies.
- zozbot234 2y agoDeng famously said "white cat, black cat, as long as it catches mice it's a good cat". His policy choices were not driven by 'embracing' of any principles but pure pragmatism.
- satvikpendem 2y agoYes, capitalist principles are indeed pragmatic, hence why he chose them.
- zozbot234 2y ago"Capitalism" is a very confusing word that should be avoided in a serious discussion one way or the other, society is a lot more complex than that. For instance "crony capitalism" is also seemingly capitalism but is directly opposed to the broad principles of a market economy that people think of as good.
- panick21_ 2y ago"Crony Capitalism" is just a term socialists came up with to shit on capitalism. The reality is every society is going to have some amount of corruption and cronyism. But "Crony Capitalism" isn't an actual coherent concepts, it doesn't have 'principles', its just highlighting something negative that happens in countries, including capitalist ones. Socialists love to add some negative word 'X' to capitalism to highlight that all bad things in the world are connected to capitalism, and if they could finally defeat capitalism, then the world would be perfect. Instead of actually trying to fix 'X' they will tell you that what we really need to change is 'capitalism'. Surveillance Capitalism, Crony Capitalism, Disaster Capitalism and so on. Trying to fix corruption, to hard, lets just destroy property rights and money instead. Great idea!