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"I did [a noun]" is 'stupider', i.e. not grammatically correct English, i.e. a formulation that people will look down on you for using as you age. Sometimes you

"I did [a noun]" is 'stupider', i.e. not grammatically correct English, i.e. a formulation that people will look down on you for using as you age. Sometimes you have to teach children things they'll eventually have to unlearn, but this is not one of those occasions.

dragonwriter 2y ago
“I did [a noun]” is grammatically correct English object-verb-direct-object sentence structure. Depending on the noun, it may not the most idiomatic way of expressing the sentiment it intends to communicate, but that is a different issue. (On the other hand, idiom is context dependent, and the objection here seems to be that it is idiomatic in at least one context, but that people prefer that children exclusively learn some other preferred idiom. But if you don't have this diversity, children don't get to learn and practice context switching as early, and that's an important skill, too.)
- carom 2y ago
  >“I did [a noun]” is grammatically correct English object-verb-direct-object sentence structure. I'm going to need some examples here because I'm filling in nouns to that structure and it does not sound correct. "I did [a] water." Huh?
  - RandallBrown 2y ago
    I did a dance. I did a presentation.
    - sorcerer-mar 2y ago
      So things that people do, of which "ouchies" is not
      - RandallBrown 2y ago
        Why can't you do an ouchie? It sounds weird, but I also know exactly what it means.
        sorcerer-mar 2y ago
        Feel free to teach your child whatever you’d like, language is totally fungible. The reason I’d suggest not to is because speaking in this way will, in fact, cause people to think less highly of you. It’s not a matter of principle and “formal correctness” is pretty meaningless in human language, but “don’t speak in a way that a substantial number of people regard as incorrect” is a meaningful goal!
        watwut 2y ago
        I would argue that people who think less of a three or five years old because the kid said "I did an ouchie" are simultaneously irrelevant and frankly dumb themselves. Kids life wont be affected at all. Your claim is really based on fairly absurd notion that a sentence normally used in relation to the kids will somehow set the kid apart from their peers ... who listen to the exact same sentences. As in, the problem of kids speech somehow damaging kids long term is literally non existent in real world. Miniscule percentage of parents takes offense on it and nobody else cares.
        sorcerer-mar 2y ago
        Obviously we’re talking about kids acquiring language, I.e. should the response be to nudge them toward more accepted language as they develop, or make up silly overintellectualized arguments like “hmm, well I can understand what they mean! [insightful face emoji]” “Aww cute!” responses to incorrect language is how kids develop speech impediments.
  - stonemetal12 2y ago
    "I did a runner" British idiom means I ran away without paying. The only problem with "I did a water" is I don't know what "a water" is without context. If person A said "I did a shot" and person B said "I did a water", it would make perfect sense.
    - thfuran 2y ago
      I can't offhand think of a case where that construction is appropriate for a noun that isn't a nominalized verb.
  - quesera 2y ago
    I did art. I did postgrad. I did work(n). I did dishes. I did Paris. I did the walls, but hired someone who did the roof. Not idiomatic for all nouns, esp those for which there's a more applicable verb.
- sorcerer-mar 2y ago
  Please provide examples
  - losvedir 2y ago
    Off the top of my head: * I did a puzzle. * I did a bad thing. * I did a backflip. Or, since this is just normal English, it's exactly the kind of thing that ChatGPT is good at, so here's a dozen more examples if you want: https://chatgpt.com/share/67e6d457-5ff4-8002-a5c7-15040f3d2290 https://chatgpt.com/share/67e6d457-5ff4-8002-a5c7-15040f3d22... .
    - sorcerer-mar 2y ago
      Ah yes, "I did a [thing that a person performs or does]" is valid. Is "an ouchie" a thing that someone performs or does?
- thanatropism 2y ago
  "1;

dragonwriter 2y ago

“I did [a noun]” is grammatically correct English object-verb-direct-object sentence structure. Depending on the noun, it may not the most idiomatic way of expressing the sentiment it intends to communicate, but that is a different issue. (On the other hand, idiom is context dependent, and the objection here seems to be that it is idiomatic in at least one context, but that people prefer that children exclusively learn some other preferred idiom. But if you don't have this diversity, children don't get to learn and practice context switching as early, and that's an important skill, too.)

carom 2y ago
>“I did [a noun]” is grammatically correct English object-verb-direct-object sentence structure. I'm going to need some examples here because I'm filling in nouns to that structure and it does not sound correct. "I did [a] water." Huh?
- RandallBrown 2y ago
  I did a dance. I did a presentation.
  - sorcerer-mar 2y ago
    So things that people do, of which "ouchies" is not
    - RandallBrown 2y ago
      Why can't you do an ouchie? It sounds weird, but I also know exactly what it means.
      - sorcerer-mar 2y ago
        Feel free to teach your child whatever you’d like, language is totally fungible. The reason I’d suggest not to is because speaking in this way will, in fact, cause people to think less highly of you. It’s not a matter of principle and “formal correctness” is pretty meaningless in human language, but “don’t speak in a way that a substantial number of people regard as incorrect” is a meaningful goal!
        watwut 2y ago
        I would argue that people who think less of a three or five years old because the kid said "I did an ouchie" are simultaneously irrelevant and frankly dumb themselves. Kids life wont be affected at all. Your claim is really based on fairly absurd notion that a sentence normally used in relation to the kids will somehow set the kid apart from their peers ... who listen to the exact same sentences. As in, the problem of kids speech somehow damaging kids long term is literally non existent in real world. Miniscule percentage of parents takes offense on it and nobody else cares.
        sorcerer-mar 2y ago
        Obviously we’re talking about kids acquiring language, I.e. should the response be to nudge them toward more accepted language as they develop, or make up silly overintellectualized arguments like “hmm, well I can understand what they mean! [insightful face emoji]” “Aww cute!” responses to incorrect language is how kids develop speech impediments.
- stonemetal12 2y ago
  "I did a runner" British idiom means I ran away without paying. The only problem with "I did a water" is I don't know what "a water" is without context. If person A said "I did a shot" and person B said "I did a water", it would make perfect sense.
  - thfuran 2y ago
    I can't offhand think of a case where that construction is appropriate for a noun that isn't a nominalized verb.
- quesera 2y ago
  I did art. I did postgrad. I did work(n). I did dishes. I did Paris. I did the walls, but hired someone who did the roof. Not idiomatic for all nouns, esp those for which there's a more applicable verb.
sorcerer-mar 2y ago
Please provide examples
- losvedir 2y ago
  Off the top of my head: * I did a puzzle. * I did a bad thing. * I did a backflip. Or, since this is just normal English, it's exactly the kind of thing that ChatGPT is good at, so here's a dozen more examples if you want: https://chatgpt.com/share/67e6d457-5ff4-8002-a5c7-15040f3d2290 https://chatgpt.com/share/67e6d457-5ff4-8002-a5c7-15040f3d22... .
  - sorcerer-mar 2y ago
    Ah yes, "I did a [thing that a person performs or does]" is valid. Is "an ouchie" a thing that someone performs or does?
thanatropism 2y ago
"1;