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Cool, they're still free to do so, just like people are free to make money on the internet from their works. And believe it or not, people are still creating th

by pxoe 2y ago

Cool, they're still free to do so, just like people are free to make money on the internet from their works. And believe it or not, people are still creating things for free.

JohnMakin 2y ago
And these things are not incentivized by the platforms they are created on, and thus rarely seen by anyone. Slop is incentivized. So yes while I am free not to create slop, I’m also bombarded by it, and my own creative output is limited due to the incentives of these platforms. It doesn’t seem to me you understood what this post was saying, and I don’t care to explain it further. The state of content will continue to degrade with this very oafish mindset.
- pxoe 2y ago
  Popular things are widely appealing things, and it's not really gonna be any different in that regard in any medium. It's just the kind of stuff that appeals to the widest audience. So, you just have to look. Do your part as a consumer. Again, believe it or not, but you do have to put in a bit more effort to look for stuff that might appeal more to you, creators, artists, musicians, rather than just complaining that things aren't served to you while doing nothing. Or you could just complain and wait for better algos or whatever, for somebody to do the curation job for you. Also, again, just so snobby. I'm sure your taste is oh so superior to everyone else.
  - JohnMakin 2y ago
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- abbadadda 2y ago
  Just wanted to say that I really appreciated your level-headed responses here, John (& I am also this “DevOps/Systems Engineer/SRE” … must be all that incident response training paying off, calm is contagious and all that )
- hobofan 2y ago
  > my own creative output is limited due to the incentives of these platforms How so? > It may surprise you to know there was a time when people created content for the sake of it. What time did you have in mind when talking about this? Yes, those times existed, and they still exist. But there was never a time where mainstream media (which has now shifted to happening to social media platforms) wasn't slop and molded by bad monetary incentives. And still during all that time talented creators kept on creating for the sake of it, while often ignored by the masses - a tale as old as time.

by pxoe 2y ago

Cool, they're still free to do so, just like people are free to make money on the internet from their works. And believe it or not, people are still creating things for free.

JohnMakin 2y ago

And these things are not incentivized by the platforms they are created on, and thus rarely seen by anyone. Slop is incentivized. So yes while I am free not to create slop, I’m also bombarded by it, and my own creative output is limited due to the incentives of these platforms. It doesn’t seem to me you understood what this post was saying, and I don’t care to explain it further. The state of content will continue to degrade with this very oafish mindset.

pxoe 2y ago
Popular things are widely appealing things, and it's not really gonna be any different in that regard in any medium. It's just the kind of stuff that appeals to the widest audience. So, you just have to look. Do your part as a consumer. Again, believe it or not, but you do have to put in a bit more effort to look for stuff that might appeal more to you, creators, artists, musicians, rather than just complaining that things aren't served to you while doing nothing. Or you could just complain and wait for better algos or whatever, for somebody to do the curation job for you. Also, again, just so snobby. I'm sure your taste is oh so superior to everyone else.
- JohnMakin 2y ago
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abbadadda 2y ago
Just wanted to say that I really appreciated your level-headed responses here, John (& I am also this “DevOps/Systems Engineer/SRE” … must be all that incident response training paying off, calm is contagious and all that )
hobofan 2y ago
> my own creative output is limited due to the incentives of these platforms How so? > It may surprise you to know there was a time when people created content for the sake of it. What time did you have in mind when talking about this? Yes, those times existed, and they still exist. But there was never a time where mainstream media (which has now shifted to happening to social media platforms) wasn't slop and molded by bad monetary incentives. And still during all that time talented creators kept on creating for the sake of it, while often ignored by the masses - a tale as old as time.