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I completely agree about the marketing material. I'm not sure about 90% but that's not something I have a strong opinion on. The stream from the bigwigs is the

I completely agree about the marketing material. I'm not sure about 90% but that's not something I have a strong opinion on. The stream from the bigwigs is the same song being played in a different tune and I'm inoculated to it. I'm not marketing it. I'm not a marketer. I'm a developer trying to create an informed opinion on its utility and the marketing speak you criticize is far away from the truth. The problem is this notion that it's just completely bullshit. The way it's worded irks me. "I genuinely don't understand...". It's quite easy to see the utility and acknowledging that doesn't, in any way, detract from valid criticisms of the technology and the people who peddle.

brookst 2y ago
Exactly. It’s so strange to read so many comments that boil down to “because some marketing people are over-promising, I will retaliate by choosing to believe false things”
- nottorp 2y ago
  Don't forget that before "AI" there was crypto. Same attitude among their promoters. So someone who isn't already invested can genuinely draw the conclusion they're similar and not worth the time. Edit: oh wait >because some marketing people are over-promising all "AI" marketing people that I've seen. Ok 98%. And all my LLM info is from what gets posted on HN. > I will retaliate by choosing to believe false things "I will retaliate by cataloguing them as pathological liars and not waste my time with them any more".
  - brookst 2y ago
    But it’s not the marketers building the products. This is like saying “because the car salesman lied about this Prius’ gas mileage, I’ll retaliate by refusing to believe hybrids are any better than pure ICE cars and will buy a pickup”. It hurts nobody but the person choosing ignorance.
    - nottorp 2y ago
      No, I'm afraid it's like 90% of the Prius owners who post something about their car post fake gas mileages. And 100% of the marketers of course.
      - brookst 2y ago
        I disagree, but even conceding the point — why would that make you choose to believe falsehoods just to stick it to the liars?

brookst 2y ago

Exactly. It’s so strange to read so many comments that boil down to “because some marketing people are over-promising, I will retaliate by choosing to believe false things”

nottorp 2y ago
Don't forget that before "AI" there was crypto. Same attitude among their promoters. So someone who isn't already invested can genuinely draw the conclusion they're similar and not worth the time. Edit: oh wait >because some marketing people are over-promising all "AI" marketing people that I've seen. Ok 98%. And all my LLM info is from what gets posted on HN. > I will retaliate by choosing to believe false things "I will retaliate by cataloguing them as pathological liars and not waste my time with them any more".
- brookst 2y ago
  But it’s not the marketers building the products. This is like saying “because the car salesman lied about this Prius’ gas mileage, I’ll retaliate by refusing to believe hybrids are any better than pure ICE cars and will buy a pickup”. It hurts nobody but the person choosing ignorance.
  - nottorp 2y ago
    No, I'm afraid it's like 90% of the Prius owners who post something about their car post fake gas mileages. And 100% of the marketers of course.
    - brookst 2y ago
      I disagree, but even conceding the point — why would that make you choose to believe falsehoods just to stick it to the liars?