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If you are looking for alternative to kebab case to write identifier in programming language which reserve the - (U+002d) as an operator, chances are good you c

If you are looking for alternative to kebab case to write identifier in programming language which reserve the - (U+002d) as an operator, chances are good you can use · (U+00B7 · MIDDLE DOT), that we use in middot case. So isMorePleasantToRead, is_more_pleasant_to_read or is·more·pleasant·to·read is up to you.

nlitened 2y ago
But how pleasant is it to write?
- psychoslave 2y ago
  On the bépo layout that I use, extremely well, as it sits between ’ (U+2019 ’ RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK) and ‑ (U+2011 ‑ NON-BREAKING HYPHEN), each being generated by altgr+shift and x . and k (which are all on the opposite side of the keyboard compared to altgr key). At least from the point of view of digital gymnastic, it’s not really any worst than camel or snake cases, though direct access to dash could be said to give a small facilitation for input in kebab case. So it really depends on the keyboard layout used (or whatever input device facility is used). What’s you favorite input method lately? Does it really doesn’t provide a convenient way to input more than ASCII visible glyphs? Plus, let’s be honest, identifiers are generally written in full expanse only once, then autocompletion is going to do it for us. And we all know we spend more time reading identifiers than declaring new ones.
thomasjb 2y ago
This is intriguing to me, do you know which (programming) languages tolerate this?
- psychoslave 2y ago
  Python python3 -c "some·identifier = 0; print(some·identifier)" C echo -e '#include <stdio.h>\nint main() { int some·identifier = 0; printf("%d", some·identifier); return 0; }' | gcc -x c -o temp - && ./temp C++ echo '#include <iostream>\nint main() { int some·identifier = 0; std::cout << some·identifier; return 0; }' | g++ -x c++ -o temp - && ./temp Ruby ruby -e 'some·identifier = 0; puts some·identifier' Javascript node -e 'let some·identifier = 0; console.log(some·identifier);' Rust echo 'fn main() { let some·identifier = 0; println!("{}", some·identifier); }' > temp.rs && rustc temp.rs && ./temp Go throw an invalid character U+00B7 '·' in identifier Java throw error: illegal character: '\u00b7' C# is really annoyed with it apparently: echo 'using System; class Program { static void Main() { int some·identifier = 0; Console.WriteLine(some·identifier); } }' > Program.cs && mcs Program.cs && mono Program.exe Program.cs(1,60): error CS1056: Unexpected character `·' Program.cs(1,60): error CS1525: Unexpected symbol `identifier', expecting `,', `;', or `=' Program.cs(1,99): error CS1056: Unexpected character `·' Program.cs(1,99): error CS1525: Unexpected symbol `identifier' That’s it for the top in TIOB index I tested in the frame of this message.
  - thomasjb 2y ago
    Thank you very much for testing it! I'm plugging away on Advent of Code 2015 in C, I'll give this a go to see if I like it
- steveklabnik 2y ago
  The reason this works in Rust is that Rust follows Unicode's categorization of which code points are useful as identifiers: https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr31/ https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr31/ MIDDLE DOT is Other_ID_Continue I know less about the other languages but it wouldn't surprise me if they did similar things.

nlitened 2y ago

But how pleasant is it to write?

psychoslave 2y ago
On the bépo layout that I use, extremely well, as it sits between ’ (U+2019 ’ RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK) and ‑ (U+2011 ‑ NON-BREAKING HYPHEN), each being generated by altgr+shift and x . and k (which are all on the opposite side of the keyboard compared to altgr key). At least from the point of view of digital gymnastic, it’s not really any worst than camel or snake cases, though direct access to dash could be said to give a small facilitation for input in kebab case. So it really depends on the keyboard layout used (or whatever input device facility is used). What’s you favorite input method lately? Does it really doesn’t provide a convenient way to input more than ASCII visible glyphs? Plus, let’s be honest, identifiers are generally written in full expanse only once, then autocompletion is going to do it for us. And we all know we spend more time reading identifiers than declaring new ones.

thomasjb 2y ago

This is intriguing to me, do you know which (programming) languages tolerate this?

psychoslave 2y ago
Python python3 -c "some·identifier = 0; print(some·identifier)" C echo -e '#include <stdio.h>\nint main() { int some·identifier = 0; printf("%d", some·identifier); return 0; }' | gcc -x c -o temp - && ./temp C++ echo '#include <iostream>\nint main() { int some·identifier = 0; std::cout << some·identifier; return 0; }' | g++ -x c++ -o temp - && ./temp Ruby ruby -e 'some·identifier = 0; puts some·identifier' Javascript node -e 'let some·identifier = 0; console.log(some·identifier);' Rust echo 'fn main() { let some·identifier = 0; println!("{}", some·identifier); }' > temp.rs && rustc temp.rs && ./temp Go throw an invalid character U+00B7 '·' in identifier Java throw error: illegal character: '\u00b7' C# is really annoyed with it apparently: echo 'using System; class Program { static void Main() { int some·identifier = 0; Console.WriteLine(some·identifier); } }' > Program.cs && mcs Program.cs && mono Program.exe Program.cs(1,60): error CS1056: Unexpected character `·' Program.cs(1,60): error CS1525: Unexpected symbol `identifier', expecting `,', `;', or `=' Program.cs(1,99): error CS1056: Unexpected character `·' Program.cs(1,99): error CS1525: Unexpected symbol `identifier' That’s it for the top in TIOB index I tested in the frame of this message.
- thomasjb 2y ago
  Thank you very much for testing it! I'm plugging away on Advent of Code 2015 in C, I'll give this a go to see if I like it
steveklabnik 2y ago
The reason this works in Rust is that Rust follows Unicode's categorization of which code points are useful as identifiers: https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr31/ https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr31/ MIDDLE DOT is Other_ID_Continue I know less about the other languages but it wouldn't surprise me if they did similar things.