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What if Guido was hit by a bus? (thread dated '94)

16 points by mcxx 18y ago

glymor 18y ago
What if someone posted something from 1994 and didn't say so in the title?
- mcxx 18y ago
  Whoops, sorry, my bad. Honestly, I didn't notice it was from 1994. Updated.
  - glymor 18y ago
    Yeah, I got all the way to this point before I thought to check out the date: "Python is not so large that it cannot be handled in house ... if it does get this large it is no longer an extension language. ... it's small" As long as you know it's from 94 it's actually quite interesting.
davidw 18y ago
"What if Guido were hit by a bus." Pedantry aside, I think the question of scripting language leadership is interesting. Tcl has survived Ousterhout's stepping aside, but I think it's arguable that it failed to thrive for a while afterwards, although it's impossible to know how things might have gone had he stayed. I think some projects are better off with a benevolent dictator type figure; others (most of the Apache projects, for instance), don't really have that type of person.
diN0bot 18y ago
discusion is about if guido died, or how to make python less risky to business managers: * create a (permissive?) standard? always out of date, slow, not slow * create organization that provides support
biohacker42 18y ago
What if all technologies were continuously replaced by newer technologies, and we all had to continuously learn just to stay current?
mdasen 18y ago
Python has a large community and the culture of that community has a lot of cohesion around the Python philosophy. DHH once commented (in the Snakes and Rubies event with Adrian of the Django bunch - http://www.djangoproject.com/snakesandrubies/ http://www.djangoproject.com/snakesandrubies/ Q&A part) that it's in the early days that culture/style/direction needs to be defined. After a while, the people who are a part of the project are those that like that style. There's lots of people in the Python community today and they're in it not to redefine Python, but because they like what Python is. Sure, there will always be differences of opinion, but overall the people involved with Python are because they like it and want to see it thrive.

16 points by mcxx 18y ago

glymor 18y ago

What if someone posted something from 1994 and didn't say so in the title?

mcxx 18y ago
Whoops, sorry, my bad. Honestly, I didn't notice it was from 1994. Updated.
- glymor 18y ago
  Yeah, I got all the way to this point before I thought to check out the date: "Python is not so large that it cannot be handled in house ... if it does get this large it is no longer an extension language. ... it's small" As long as you know it's from 94 it's actually quite interesting.

davidw 18y ago

"What if Guido were hit by a bus." Pedantry aside, I think the question of scripting language leadership is interesting. Tcl has survived Ousterhout's stepping aside, but I think it's arguable that it failed to thrive for a while afterwards, although it's impossible to know how things might have gone had he stayed. I think some projects are better off with a benevolent dictator type figure; others (most of the Apache projects, for instance), don't really have that type of person.

diN0bot 18y ago

discusion is about if guido died, or how to make python less risky to business managers: * create a (permissive?) standard? always out of date, slow, not slow * create organization that provides support

biohacker42 18y ago

What if all technologies were continuously replaced by newer technologies, and we all had to continuously learn just to stay current?

mdasen 18y ago

Python has a large community and the culture of that community has a lot of cohesion around the Python philosophy. DHH once commented (in the Snakes and Rubies event with Adrian of the Django bunch - http://www.djangoproject.com/snakesandrubies/ http://www.djangoproject.com/snakesandrubies/ Q&A part) that it's in the early days that culture/style/direction needs to be defined. After a while, the people who are a part of the project are those that like that style. There's lots of people in the Python community today and they're in it not to redefine Python, but because they like what Python is. Sure, there will always be differences of opinion, but overall the people involved with Python are because they like it and want to see it thrive.