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> I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one. They need to record every search and connect it to your account. Looking at their privacy polic

by almyk 2y ago

> I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one. They need to record every search and connect it to your account. Looking at their privacy policy they state the following: > We may store web requests made by user browser temporarily, with strict retention periods, for debugging purposes, and in a manner that they are not linked to an account. https://kagi.com/privacy#server-data https://kagi.com/privacy#server-data

KomoD 2y ago
Is it actually true though? They've lied about other things, what stops them from lying about that? For 2 years they've said "Kagi has zero marketing budget and spends zero on marketing", that's a lie and they still haven't changed it. They've sponsored over 200 youtube videos https://filmot.com/search/%22brought%20to%20you%20in%20association%20with%20Kagi%22/1?gridView=1& https://filmot.com/search/%22brought%20to%20you%20in%20assoc...
- speerer 2y ago
  Do we know that they spend money on this or is that inferred? I asked because the search you've linked to only seems to list relatively niche chess videos on one creator's account. And the videos themselves are also ad-supported. It's (at least) not impossible that the sponsorship association is not budgeted in the way that (I think) you infer.
  - KomoD 2y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40013889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40013889 https://kagifeedback.org/d/3822-kagi-is-sponsoring-youtube-videos-disincentivizing-sponsorblock-implementation/6 https://kagifeedback.org/d/3822-kagi-is-sponsoring-youtube-v... "I watched Daniel King for 10 years and have previously donated to him, now I am happy that we are in position to sponsor his work which I believe is extraordinary.", this also definitely sounds like monetary compensation to me.
    - speerer 2y ago
      Thanks! I see why they may not consider this "marketing", even though it is obviously a sponsorship based on that information.

by almyk 2y ago

KomoD 2y ago

Is it actually true though? They've lied about other things, what stops them from lying about that? For 2 years they've said "Kagi has zero marketing budget and spends zero on marketing", that's a lie and they still haven't changed it. They've sponsored over 200 youtube videos https://filmot.com/search/%22brought%20to%20you%20in%20association%20with%20Kagi%22/1?gridView=1& https://filmot.com/search/%22brought%20to%20you%20in%20assoc...

speerer 2y ago
Do we know that they spend money on this or is that inferred? I asked because the search you've linked to only seems to list relatively niche chess videos on one creator's account. And the videos themselves are also ad-supported. It's (at least) not impossible that the sponsorship association is not budgeted in the way that (I think) you infer.
- KomoD 2y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40013889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40013889 https://kagifeedback.org/d/3822-kagi-is-sponsoring-youtube-videos-disincentivizing-sponsorblock-implementation/6 https://kagifeedback.org/d/3822-kagi-is-sponsoring-youtube-v... "I watched Daniel King for 10 years and have previously donated to him, now I am happy that we are in position to sponsor his work which I believe is extraordinary.", this also definitely sounds like monetary compensation to me.
  - speerer 2y ago
    Thanks! I see why they may not consider this "marketing", even though it is obviously a sponsorship based on that information.