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Emily Dickinson wept—

mmooss 2y ago
Ha, good point, and an interesting question: What kinds of dashes did Dickinson intend? It's a hard one to answer: We could look at published Emily Dickinson books from the time, but did Dickinson really pay that close attention to or have that much control over the type? We could look at Dickinson's actual personal documents, but if they were handewritten, distinguishing dashes could be difficult even if there was intention there.
- grey413 2y ago
  I imagine it would have been up to the typesetter to make the call. The conventions for dash usage are fairly straightforward. You use em-dashes for asides, en dashes for ranges, and hyphens for most other cases. Its easy to figure out the right character from context (apart from en ranges vs hyphen ranges).
- armedgorilla 2y ago
  Fortunately we have troves of her handwritten documents; all of her poems were first printed posthumously. To me, she's using the punctuation as pacing or tonal markers as opposed to ligatures ("I'll clutch— and clutch— " vs "I'll clutch-and clutch-"). Many publishers style these marks as longer than normal m-dashes for that reason, which makes sense seeing as they are rarely used as asides. I interpret her marks— as breathless pauses— that— having no unicode— should be given to m— and space— https://www.edickinson.org/editions/2/image_sets/12170035 https://www.edickinson.org/editions/2/image_sets/12170035
  - phlakaton 2y ago
    Em-dashes have been the norm in every Dickinson poem I read, and I think it might have derived from the preferences of Victorian publishers, who I understand loved those long dashes.
  - mmooss 2y ago
    Great comment. Thank you!
lostlogin 2y ago
I had a quick search, attempting to find a great author who hated em dashes and preferred the vastly superior en dash. I found nothing. This list of authors punctuation quirks is interesting though. https://lithub.com/the-punctuation-marks-loved-and-hated-by-famous-writers/ https://lithub.com/the-punctuation-marks-loved-and-hated-by-...
- phlakaton 2y ago
  You want Robert Bringhurst, poet and typographic nerd. He gives them special withering attention in his Elements of Typographic Style. I think he referred to them as Victorian excrescences?

Ha, good point, and an interesting question: What kinds of dashes did Dickinson intend? It's a hard one to answer: We could look at published Emily Dickinson books from the time, but did Dickinson really pay that close attention to or have that much control over the type? We could look at Dickinson's actual personal documents, but if they were handewritten, distinguishing dashes could be difficult even if there was intention there.

grey413 2y ago
I imagine it would have been up to the typesetter to make the call. The conventions for dash usage are fairly straightforward. You use em-dashes for asides, en dashes for ranges, and hyphens for most other cases. Its easy to figure out the right character from context (apart from en ranges vs hyphen ranges).
armedgorilla 2y ago
Fortunately we have troves of her handwritten documents; all of her poems were first printed posthumously. To me, she's using the punctuation as pacing or tonal markers as opposed to ligatures ("I'll clutch— and clutch— " vs "I'll clutch-and clutch-"). Many publishers style these marks as longer than normal m-dashes for that reason, which makes sense seeing as they are rarely used as asides. I interpret her marks— as breathless pauses— that— having no unicode— should be given to m— and space— https://www.edickinson.org/editions/2/image_sets/12170035 https://www.edickinson.org/editions/2/image_sets/12170035
- phlakaton 2y ago
  Em-dashes have been the norm in every Dickinson poem I read, and I think it might have derived from the preferences of Victorian publishers, who I understand loved those long dashes.
- mmooss 2y ago
  Great comment. Thank you!

lostlogin 2y ago

I had a quick search, attempting to find a great author who hated em dashes and preferred the vastly superior en dash. I found nothing. This list of authors punctuation quirks is interesting though. https://lithub.com/the-punctuation-marks-loved-and-hated-by-famous-writers/ https://lithub.com/the-punctuation-marks-loved-and-hated-by-...

phlakaton 2y ago
You want Robert Bringhurst, poet and typographic nerd. He gives them special withering attention in his Elements of Typographic Style. I think he referred to them as Victorian excrescences?