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> When the reality is that there has been enormous action and enormous progress all over the planet. The reality is that emissions are still increasing .. they
by defrost 2y ago
> When the reality is that there has been enormous action and enormous progress all over the planet.
The reality is that emissions are still increasing .. they need to stop increasing, they need to decrease considerably, and some of the emissions we've already put into the atmosphere need to be clawed back.
While we can acknowledge that the US is now (14.3 tonne per person) rolling less coal per person than it was in the 1970s (21 tonne per US citizen a year) it is still the case that the US is still emitting more per person than any other country on the planet.
Developed countries have "cleaned up their act" largely by outsourcing emissions intensive industry to developing countries ("the China emissions" issue has a sizable component that is really "a US consumption" issue).
I'm no doomer, I have a career in geophysics and have a pragmatic grounded view of the world. That said the take you have presented is papering over the very real issues.
- tonyedgecombe 2y ago>Developed countries have "cleaned up their act" largely by outsourcing emissions intensive industry to developing countries That's only partially true and has flattened off in recent years. In the US the deficit of goods and services imports vs exports only represents 2.8% of total GDP.
- defrost 2y agoDoes that counter the claim though? Is the correlation between value of goods and emissions and waste related to goods so strong that GDP value balance is an easy standin for emissions and waste balance?