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i refuse to care about this lowercase letters are all i will ever use i see no possible reason to use the other symbols Suit yourself, but if you refuse to lea

i refuse to care about this lowercase letters are all i will ever use i see no possible reason to use the other symbols Suit yourself, but if you refuse to learn basic grammar you will be treated like you are stupid and uneducated. Like it or not, presentation matters. Getting the basics right, including things like spelling, grammar, etc, shows a basic attention to detail without which your services will likely do more harm than good.

mvdtnz 2y ago
The various dashes are not "basic grammar" they are for pedants to argue amongst one another while the rest of the world just gets thing done.
handoflixue 2y ago
> etc, actually it's "etc." (I wouldn't usually be a pedant, but if you think the difference between "--" and "—" matters, you should probably try to get the basics right too.)
- milesrout 2y ago
  Wrong. Look at any dictionary. Etc is completely fine. What next, are you going to pretend you write N.A.S.A. or Mr. White? Come on
  - MindBeams 2y ago
    >Mr. White As opposed to what, exactly?
    - milesrout 2y ago
      Mr White, which is correct English. I believe Americans might put a dot after these abbreviations, but nobody else does.
  - handoflixue 2y ago
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/etc https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/etc. - even the URL has the period, and I did in fact look this up before replying :) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/etc https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/etc even redirects to the correct URL with a "."
    - milesrout 2y ago
      Merriam-Webster is an American dictionary and therefore totally irrelevant to me.
      - handoflixue 2y ago
        You said "look at any dictionary", so I did. I notice you can't provide a link to a single dictionary that supports you, or even name what dialect supposedly doesn't have "etc."
  - zamalek 2y ago
    Etc. is an abbreviation for etcetera. Correctly signifying contractions, abbreviations, and acronyms is far more commonplace than using the correct dash. Almost everyone would have learned about shortening words in high school; many people leave university without ever having heard of an em dash.
    - milesrout 2y ago
      Etc is also an abbreviation of et cetera. Only Americans put pointless dots everywhere. This is all stuff you learn in school. Punctuation isn't obscure or niche. You may not have learnt about semicolons or em dashes in school but you should have and I did. As did anyone that has ever read a novel. There are two semicolons on the first page of the first Harry Potter book, a novel read by approximately every child of my generation. There are loads of examples of the proper use of dashes and other "obscure" punctuation marks in any professionally typeset text.
      - zamalek 2y ago
        > Only Americans I was raised and educated in Africa, specifically the GCSE curriculum. I was taught to use etc.
- nosrepa 2y ago
  I prefer &c

mvdtnz 2y ago

The various dashes are not "basic grammar" they are for pedants to argue amongst one another while the rest of the world just gets thing done.

handoflixue 2y ago

> etc, actually it's "etc." (I wouldn't usually be a pedant, but if you think the difference between "--" and "—" matters, you should probably try to get the basics right too.)

milesrout 2y ago
Wrong. Look at any dictionary. Etc is completely fine. What next, are you going to pretend you write N.A.S.A. or Mr. White? Come on
- MindBeams 2y ago
  >Mr. White As opposed to what, exactly?
  - milesrout 2y ago
    Mr White, which is correct English. I believe Americans might put a dot after these abbreviations, but nobody else does.
- handoflixue 2y ago
  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/etc https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/etc. - even the URL has the period, and I did in fact look this up before replying :) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/etc https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/etc even redirects to the correct URL with a "."
  - milesrout 2y ago
    Merriam-Webster is an American dictionary and therefore totally irrelevant to me.
    - handoflixue 2y ago
      You said "look at any dictionary", so I did. I notice you can't provide a link to a single dictionary that supports you, or even name what dialect supposedly doesn't have "etc."
- zamalek 2y ago
  Etc. is an abbreviation for etcetera. Correctly signifying contractions, abbreviations, and acronyms is far more commonplace than using the correct dash. Almost everyone would have learned about shortening words in high school; many people leave university without ever having heard of an em dash.
  - milesrout 2y ago
    Etc is also an abbreviation of et cetera. Only Americans put pointless dots everywhere. This is all stuff you learn in school. Punctuation isn't obscure or niche. You may not have learnt about semicolons or em dashes in school but you should have and I did. As did anyone that has ever read a novel. There are two semicolons on the first page of the first Harry Potter book, a novel read by approximately every child of my generation. There are loads of examples of the proper use of dashes and other "obscure" punctuation marks in any professionally typeset text.
    - zamalek 2y ago
      > Only Americans I was raised and educated in Africa, specifically the GCSE curriculum. I was taught to use etc.
nosrepa 2y ago
I prefer &c