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What do you mean by 'addictions are not breakable with money'? Are you saying that medical intervention and healthcare are not effective for people suffering ad

What do you mean by 'addictions are not breakable with money'? Are you saying that medical intervention and healthcare are not effective for people suffering addiction?

nh23423fefe 2y ago
Why do people relapse so often if medical intervention works? A doctor can set 1000 broken legs. Can they cure 1000 addicts?
- lugvruzzle 2y ago
  well the goal of treating addiction is generally not to 'cure' it but to 'manage' it. If you can come up with a way of systematically helping populations of people manage their addictions without using money, I am all ears.
rayiner 2y ago
Do you know it works? I’d be curious to know your prior—do you think medical interventions for behavioral problems typically work? We know, for example, that medical interventions to address obesity typically don’t work (without surgery). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8427732/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8427732/
- xnx 2y ago
  > We know, for example, that medical interventions to address obesity typically don’t work (without surgery). This seems like a wild example to use given the runway success of GLP-1 drugs
  - rayiner 2y ago
    Sorry, I’m old and sometimes forget GLP-1 drugs exist now. But that’s kind of my point—those drugs seem like magic because medical interventions for obesity control were so extremely ineffective until just a couple of years ago. We don’t have anything akin to GLP-1 drugs for opiate addiction, or alcohol addiction, etc.
    - xnx 2y ago
      > We don’t have anything akin to GLP-1 drugs for opiate addiction, or alcohol addiction, etc. Surprisingly, there's some evidence that GLP-1 drugs may also help with drug and alcohol cravings! https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/news-events/research-update/semaglutide-shows-promise-potential-alcohol-use-disorder-medication https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/news-events/research-update/semagl...

What do you mean by 'addictions are not breakable with money'? Are you saying that medical intervention and healthcare are not effective for people suffering addiction?

nh23423fefe 2y ago

Why do people relapse so often if medical intervention works? A doctor can set 1000 broken legs. Can they cure 1000 addicts?

lugvruzzle 2y ago
well the goal of treating addiction is generally not to 'cure' it but to 'manage' it. If you can come up with a way of systematically helping populations of people manage their addictions without using money, I am all ears.

rayiner 2y ago

Do you know it works? I’d be curious to know your prior—do you think medical interventions for behavioral problems typically work? We know, for example, that medical interventions to address obesity typically don’t work (without surgery). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8427732/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8427732/

xnx 2y ago
> We know, for example, that medical interventions to address obesity typically don’t work (without surgery). This seems like a wild example to use given the runway success of GLP-1 drugs
- rayiner 2y ago
  Sorry, I’m old and sometimes forget GLP-1 drugs exist now. But that’s kind of my point—those drugs seem like magic because medical interventions for obesity control were so extremely ineffective until just a couple of years ago. We don’t have anything akin to GLP-1 drugs for opiate addiction, or alcohol addiction, etc.
  - xnx 2y ago
    > We don’t have anything akin to GLP-1 drugs for opiate addiction, or alcohol addiction, etc. Surprisingly, there's some evidence that GLP-1 drugs may also help with drug and alcohol cravings! https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/news-events/research-update/semaglutide-shows-promise-potential-alcohol-use-disorder-medication https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/news-events/research-update/semagl...