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Please Microsoft! If you provide consumers with a high quality first-party experience, they might start to realize that we've been selling them shitware all alo

Please Microsoft! If you provide consumers with a high quality first-party experience, they might start to realize that we've been selling them shitware all along! Think Twice about this!!

Karunamon 14y ago
Yeah, this. OEM's whine about Microsoft pushing them out of the game, except they've been busily harming the brand and giving opponents ammo by selling crap hardware with crap software preloaded. You guys (OEMs) had roughly the better part of a decade to get it right. It should come as a surprise to precisely nobody that you're now being made irrelevant.
- geon 14y ago
  I can't understand how OEM:s think it is a good idea to get paid to preinstall trial versions. When I pay for aproduct, I don't want to be treated as their property to be sold to advertisers. It's the same when I want to watch a movie trailer on the largest cinema chain here in Sweden. I have to watch an ad before I am allowed to watch the ad for the product they sell. It's ridiculous.
  - dman 14y ago
    You have not used a Verizon phone then I assume. Not only does it come with trial versions, you cant uninstall the trial versions either.
- pm90 14y ago
  That's exactly right. It still baffles me that apple is the only company that makes laptops that are beautiful
  - kabdib 14y ago
    Well, it's a matter of opinion, but I think you're wrong. I've had a couple of ThinkPads that were beautiful in the same way that a tractor is. They just got stuff done. I have an Asus UX31 Zenbook that is fantastic, and it didn't come with any bloatware at all. (Sure, it's a blatant copy of a Mac Air, but they made improvements, too). Apple's principles get in the way. One button mouse, yeah right . . .
    - shrughes 14y ago
      If you want to see tractor-beauty, also check out the Panasonic Let's Note (some of which are sold in the U.S. as "business-rugged" Toughbooks) line.
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Please Microsoft! If you provide consumers with a high quality first-party experience, they might start to realize that we've been selling them shitware all along! Think Twice about this!!

Karunamon 14y ago

Yeah, this. OEM's whine about Microsoft pushing them out of the game, except they've been busily harming the brand and giving opponents ammo by selling crap hardware with crap software preloaded. You guys (OEMs) had roughly the better part of a decade to get it right. It should come as a surprise to precisely nobody that you're now being made irrelevant.

geon 14y ago
I can't understand how OEM:s think it is a good idea to get paid to preinstall trial versions. When I pay for aproduct, I don't want to be treated as their property to be sold to advertisers. It's the same when I want to watch a movie trailer on the largest cinema chain here in Sweden. I have to watch an ad before I am allowed to watch the ad for the product they sell. It's ridiculous.
- dman 14y ago
  You have not used a Verizon phone then I assume. Not only does it come with trial versions, you cant uninstall the trial versions either.
pm90 14y ago
That's exactly right. It still baffles me that apple is the only company that makes laptops that are beautiful
- kabdib 14y ago
  Well, it's a matter of opinion, but I think you're wrong. I've had a couple of ThinkPads that were beautiful in the same way that a tractor is. They just got stuff done. I have an Asus UX31 Zenbook that is fantastic, and it didn't come with any bloatware at all. (Sure, it's a blatant copy of a Mac Air, but they made improvements, too). Apple's principles get in the way. One button mouse, yeah right . . .
  - shrughes 14y ago
    If you want to see tractor-beauty, also check out the Panasonic Let's Note (some of which are sold in the U.S. as "business-rugged" Toughbooks) line.
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