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... Previously the in VA Reckless was automatic at 80MPH but now it's 85MPH. At 80MPH I would play devils advocate, I've had to go to 80MPH even in Michigan to

... Previously the in VA Reckless was automatic at 80MPH but now it's 85MPH. At 80MPH I would play devils advocate, I've had to go to 80MPH even in Michigan to avoid hazardous drivers[0]. But in general I'd hope that if someone got pulled over and ticketed for such it was flagrant. At 85 It's hard to say what I'd need to avoid in an accident unless I was already doing 80. [0] - Most recently, a 'just shy of overdimension criteria' truck that was doing 75 where trucks in general should only do 65, while on a cell phone...

StableAlkyne 2y ago
To be fair, it's the norm in most of the country to hit 15 over. If you're going with the flow of traffic at a safe following distance on a 70, I can easily see how someone would hit that. Especially right after the border. Edit: the interstate, not city or back roads
- JoeAltmaier 2y ago
  Don't know where you're from. Around here it's 5mph over.
  - Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
    Here in Portland, the standard is 5 mph UNDER the limit in the left lane. -_- If I had a dollar for every time I've passed people on their right while going the speed limit, I could make a living off of it.
  - mystified5016 2y ago
    In Cincinnati it's anywhere from 10-25 over. The city has been sprinkling speedbumps everywhere, and traffic is faster and more dangerous everywhere there's a speedbump.
- to11mtm 2y ago
  Makes sense I guess... Maybe I'm naive; in my state the 'norm' was 5MPH or 10% (whichever is greater) over until a combination of: - Covid and/or bad driving habits developed during Covid - People moving to my state for COL/Work reasons At the same time, over the last year or two we have devolved into 18 wheelers doing 75 in a truck-65 zone [0] and apparently for many, 80 is the new 75. On the other hand, I can think of three locations even in-state where 15MPH (or more!) is the gold standard or otherwise acceptable; - M39, a 13-ish mile trunkline where ~10 miles or so has +15MPH as norm on the left lanes as long as traffic permits. It's - M10, a 23-ish mile trunkline that has two distinct styles of driving along each half, the part in Detroit really helps the overall 'thunderdome' claims. Much of it is 2 lanes only, and in certain sections there's no room to safely pull someone over. - The portion of Outer Drive that runs through Rouge park has a posted limit of 25. I've never met a human being who didn't drive 40 through it as SOP. At the same time, I think my state tends to underpatrol/underenforce, I've seen absolute trifectas of terror (CDL in overdimensioned doing 10+ over while on a cell phone) and yet there is never enforcement out to deal with it like there used to. [0] - Which more than anything pisses me off in that it is almost certainly causing wear in excess of the design life of the road...

StableAlkyne 2y ago

To be fair, it's the norm in most of the country to hit 15 over. If you're going with the flow of traffic at a safe following distance on a 70, I can easily see how someone would hit that. Especially right after the border. Edit: the interstate, not city or back roads

JoeAltmaier 2y ago
Don't know where you're from. Around here it's 5mph over.
- Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
  Here in Portland, the standard is 5 mph UNDER the limit in the left lane. -_- If I had a dollar for every time I've passed people on their right while going the speed limit, I could make a living off of it.
- mystified5016 2y ago
  In Cincinnati it's anywhere from 10-25 over. The city has been sprinkling speedbumps everywhere, and traffic is faster and more dangerous everywhere there's a speedbump.
to11mtm 2y ago
Makes sense I guess... Maybe I'm naive; in my state the 'norm' was 5MPH or 10% (whichever is greater) over until a combination of: - Covid and/or bad driving habits developed during Covid - People moving to my state for COL/Work reasons At the same time, over the last year or two we have devolved into 18 wheelers doing 75 in a truck-65 zone [0] and apparently for many, 80 is the new 75. On the other hand, I can think of three locations even in-state where 15MPH (or more!) is the gold standard or otherwise acceptable; - M39, a 13-ish mile trunkline where ~10 miles or so has +15MPH as norm on the left lanes as long as traffic permits. It's - M10, a 23-ish mile trunkline that has two distinct styles of driving along each half, the part in Detroit really helps the overall 'thunderdome' claims. Much of it is 2 lanes only, and in certain sections there's no room to safely pull someone over. - The portion of Outer Drive that runs through Rouge park has a posted limit of 25. I've never met a human being who didn't drive 40 through it as SOP. At the same time, I think my state tends to underpatrol/underenforce, I've seen absolute trifectas of terror (CDL in overdimensioned doing 10+ over while on a cell phone) and yet there is never enforcement out to deal with it like there used to. [0] - Which more than anything pisses me off in that it is almost certainly causing wear in excess of the design life of the road...