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I'm fully expecting this sort of thing to be mandatory for all vehicles at some point in the not too distant future. The tech has been there for years now, and

I'm fully expecting this sort of thing to be mandatory for all vehicles at some point in the not too distant future. The tech has been there for years now, and I'm honestly surprised some politician hasn't honed in on it and started mandating it be used for law enforcement yet. We're barrelling toward a world where we are under constant surveilance, and tech can and will be used to ensure that laws are enforced proactively rather than reactively. I'm sure there will be pros and cons of that world, but having seen some of the absurd laws in place I suspect there will at minimum be some really painful years of evolution. I'm sure mandating everyone have these things would go over like a lead balloon with the current culture, but that will change. They're following the classic playbook of starting with just a very small and unsympathetic minority (in this case reckless drivers). They can then slowly expand the covered group from there until it covers everyone. And of course law enforcement vehicles won't be speed limited, nor vehicles carrying important people. It wouldn't be safe to limit them.

to11mtm 2y ago
IIRC the EU is trying to mandate breathalyzers in all vehicles. I think they're working towards GPS based speed limitation being a standard thing too. OTOH the US hasn't tried to do that yet... Fun to think about why. On one hand there's the additional cost to consumers as well as overall complexity in design (how do you make that not look like ass?) On the other hand, I'm betting that given the US justice system, at least one lobbying group would prefer more fines and/or the cost of filling up a jail cell vs preventing the action in the first place. As far as general speed limiters... IDK I'd like to be able to outrun a tornado. Also I'm guessing some car makers wouldn't like that they cannot truly market a 'top speed' of a vehicle, then you've got the track day folks who know their business would be hurt by govt-mandated speed limiters on road vehicles.
morkalork 2y ago
There's a whole lot of behaviours that are fine-able offenses that society lets slide. California stops, modest speeding etc. I'd like to hope we're grown up enough to recognize that and not build the torment nexus but signs are not looking good.
Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
> I'm fully expecting this sort of thing to be mandatory for all vehicles at some point in the not too distant future. I wouldn't expect it, and not because the population will cry about their freedoms being infringed, but rather, I expect police departments to fight against their potential revenue stream from speeding tickets.

to11mtm 2y ago

IIRC the EU is trying to mandate breathalyzers in all vehicles. I think they're working towards GPS based speed limitation being a standard thing too. OTOH the US hasn't tried to do that yet... Fun to think about why. On one hand there's the additional cost to consumers as well as overall complexity in design (how do you make that not look like ass?) On the other hand, I'm betting that given the US justice system, at least one lobbying group would prefer more fines and/or the cost of filling up a jail cell vs preventing the action in the first place. As far as general speed limiters... IDK I'd like to be able to outrun a tornado. Also I'm guessing some car makers wouldn't like that they cannot truly market a 'top speed' of a vehicle, then you've got the track day folks who know their business would be hurt by govt-mandated speed limiters on road vehicles.

morkalork 2y ago

There's a whole lot of behaviours that are fine-able offenses that society lets slide. California stops, modest speeding etc. I'd like to hope we're grown up enough to recognize that and not build the torment nexus but signs are not looking good.

Sohcahtoa82 2y ago

> I'm fully expecting this sort of thing to be mandatory for all vehicles at some point in the not too distant future. I wouldn't expect it, and not because the population will cry about their freedoms being infringed, but rather, I expect police departments to fight against their potential revenue stream from speeding tickets.