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On a purely numbers basis the older generation of homeowners far outnumber the young. It's going to take a good while before the balance of power can be shifted

On a purely numbers basis the older generation of homeowners far outnumber the young. It's going to take a good while before the balance of power can be shifted. Democracy has the longterm tools for sure, just not for another twenty years or so. Hopefully over time yimby can take hold in some pockets and gradually expand out from those strongholds.

scoofy 2y ago
>On a purely numbers basis the older generation of homeowners far outnumber the young. The point is numbers of voters. There are more young voters now than older voters, this is why we are seeing things change at the state level. Now that many millennials are in there 40's with no real shot at home-ownership it's starting to freak people out. Which is why we will continue to see the YIMBY and Strong Towns movements, not just grow, but accelerate in growth.
- grumpy-de-sre 2y ago
  I'm not sure how much acceleration we're seeing, do we have numbers on this? Or are voters just becoming disenfranchised? Acceleration is great hope/source of optimism.
  - scoofy 2y ago
    I've been in SF for a long time and I remember when the YIMBY movement didn't exist, just 10 years ago, and Sonja Trauss was trolling SF by running for Board of Supervisors and saying all this shit out load knowing she'd lose in a landslide. 10 years later, the governor is a self-proclaimed YIMBY (even though he isn't), a book on YIMBYism is a national best seller, and nationally, folks are finally realizing that the reason why we're losing the working class on the left is because the left cares more about their own property values than about helping working folks. All the while, there is the parallel center-right focused Strong Towns organization that is making the exact same argument for the exact same movement in more conservative areas. If that's not extreme acceleration I don't know what is.

scoofy 2y ago

>On a purely numbers basis the older generation of homeowners far outnumber the young. The point is numbers of voters. There are more young voters now than older voters, this is why we are seeing things change at the state level. Now that many millennials are in there 40's with no real shot at home-ownership it's starting to freak people out. Which is why we will continue to see the YIMBY and Strong Towns movements, not just grow, but accelerate in growth.

grumpy-de-sre 2y ago
I'm not sure how much acceleration we're seeing, do we have numbers on this? Or are voters just becoming disenfranchised? Acceleration is great hope/source of optimism.
- scoofy 2y ago
  I've been in SF for a long time and I remember when the YIMBY movement didn't exist, just 10 years ago, and Sonja Trauss was trolling SF by running for Board of Supervisors and saying all this shit out load knowing she'd lose in a landslide. 10 years later, the governor is a self-proclaimed YIMBY (even though he isn't), a book on YIMBYism is a national best seller, and nationally, folks are finally realizing that the reason why we're losing the working class on the left is because the left cares more about their own property values than about helping working folks. All the while, there is the parallel center-right focused Strong Towns organization that is making the exact same argument for the exact same movement in more conservative areas. If that's not extreme acceleration I don't know what is.