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There are reformist policies that work and actions that can be taken on the local level to help alleviate some of these problems. But they are not robust long-t

There are reformist policies that work and actions that can be taken on the local level to help alleviate some of these problems. But they are not robust long-term solutions. > a few years things largely went back to normal The US is deporting random immigrants to a concentration camp in El Salvador without due process claiming all of them are "gang members" with zero evidence. If you are unable to tie the expansion of the executive power and capture of the courts to the class conflict in the US then idk what to tell you man.

TulliusCicero 2y ago
> But they are not robust long-term solutions. Why not? Sure, they could be undone, but that's true for any law in a democracy. > The US is deporting random immigrants to a concentration camp in El Salvador without due process claiming all of them are "gang members" with zero evidence. Got some bad news for you if you think abuses of executive power like this aren't largely normal here. Yes, it sucks, but my point was that the doomers couldn't disentangle a few very bad economic years from their highly motivated belief that the whole rotten system is gonna come crashing down Any Day Now, I Swear.
- wormlord 2y ago
  > Why not? Sure, they could be undone, but that's true for any law in a democracy. Not a democracy, and you just answered your own question. They can be undone because the people do not wield absolute power. They can be overturned by the state government, or federal government, or local lobbying groups. > Yes, it sucks, but my point was that the doomers couldn't disentangle a few very bad economic years from their highly motivated belief that the whole rotten system is gonna come crashing down Any Day Now, I Swear. I never said the whole system was going to come crashing down. I said Liberalism is over. > Got some bad news for you if you think abuses of executive power like this aren't largely normal here. I don't understand your point. You acknowledge that things are bad and also seem to acknowledge that they are getting worse, but you also claim that I am being "doomer". I am simply stating that whatever remained of the liberal framework, like: - separation of powers - due process - representative democracy - constitutional law Is going bye-bye. I don't think it is "doomerism" when it is literally happening right now and has arguably been happening since the GWOT. I think you just want to be contrarian and look at everything bad happening and feel superior because you are aloof about it.

TulliusCicero 2y ago

> But they are not robust long-term solutions. Why not? Sure, they could be undone, but that's true for any law in a democracy. > The US is deporting random immigrants to a concentration camp in El Salvador without due process claiming all of them are "gang members" with zero evidence. Got some bad news for you if you think abuses of executive power like this aren't largely normal here. Yes, it sucks, but my point was that the doomers couldn't disentangle a few very bad economic years from their highly motivated belief that the whole rotten system is gonna come crashing down Any Day Now, I Swear.

wormlord 2y ago
> Why not? Sure, they could be undone, but that's true for any law in a democracy. Not a democracy, and you just answered your own question. They can be undone because the people do not wield absolute power. They can be overturned by the state government, or federal government, or local lobbying groups. > Yes, it sucks, but my point was that the doomers couldn't disentangle a few very bad economic years from their highly motivated belief that the whole rotten system is gonna come crashing down Any Day Now, I Swear. I never said the whole system was going to come crashing down. I said Liberalism is over. > Got some bad news for you if you think abuses of executive power like this aren't largely normal here. I don't understand your point. You acknowledge that things are bad and also seem to acknowledge that they are getting worse, but you also claim that I am being "doomer". I am simply stating that whatever remained of the liberal framework, like: - separation of powers - due process - representative democracy - constitutional law Is going bye-bye. I don't think it is "doomerism" when it is literally happening right now and has arguably been happening since the GWOT. I think you just want to be contrarian and look at everything bad happening and feel superior because you are aloof about it.