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I can literally drive to a CVS, spend $10 on a test, and self-diagnose a UTI by peeing on a stick. And if I go to urgent care there is a 0% chance I’ll actually

I can literally drive to a CVS, spend $10 on a test, and self-diagnose a UTI by peeing on a stick. And if I go to urgent care there is a 0% chance I’ll actually see an MD for an UTI. I couldn’t think of a worse example of how your supposed eliteness is valuable.

robertlagrant 2y ago
> I can literally drive to a CVS, spend $10 on a test, and self-diagnose a UTI by peeing on a stick It's knowing to do that in a case that isn't obvious that's the hard bit. Once you've decided to check for UTI, yes, it's an easy self-test.
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  Any LLM could have told me to do that. And yes, LLMs are frequently wrong. Do you really want to go there, Doctor...?
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    I'm not a doctor. LLMs might be frequently wrong, but they don't hallucinate that badly.
    - CamperBob2 2y ago
      Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you. Just pre-emptively putting that out there to answer the inevitable "B...b...b...but unlike people, AI sometimes makes stuff up!" response from nervous gatekeepers.
      - robertlagrant 2y ago
        > Just pre-emptively putting that out there to answer the inevitable "B...b...b...but unlike people, AI sometimes makes stuff up!" response from nervous gatekeepers. You're misusing the word gatekeeper, if there is even a good use for it. Requiring a driving test isn't gatekeeping. Or rather it is, but gatekeeping is an obtuse complaint.
- in_cahoots 2y ago
  Trust me, if you have female anatomy after the first or second UTI it’s patently obvious when you are getting another one. That’s my point- I can’t think of an easier condition to recognize and self-diagnose than a UTI in a healthy adult.
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    But what if it's not presenting normally, or it's the first one? Or it's not female anatomy? Given not all experiences are the same, why are you assuming that your experience is relevant to this other experience? Or have I misread and it is definitely the same?
Suppafly 2y ago
I'm not even sure any of the urgent cares around here are staffed by MDs. All of the NPs are theoretically overseen by an MD but I don't know that they are onsite at all.

robertlagrant 2y ago

> I can literally drive to a CVS, spend $10 on a test, and self-diagnose a UTI by peeing on a stick It's knowing to do that in a case that isn't obvious that's the hard bit. Once you've decided to check for UTI, yes, it's an easy self-test.

CamperBob2 2y ago
Any LLM could have told me to do that. And yes, LLMs are frequently wrong. Do you really want to go there, Doctor...?
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  I'm not a doctor. LLMs might be frequently wrong, but they don't hallucinate that badly.
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you. Just pre-emptively putting that out there to answer the inevitable "B...b...b...but unlike people, AI sometimes makes stuff up!" response from nervous gatekeepers.
    - robertlagrant 2y ago
      > Just pre-emptively putting that out there to answer the inevitable "B...b...b...but unlike people, AI sometimes makes stuff up!" response from nervous gatekeepers. You're misusing the word gatekeeper, if there is even a good use for it. Requiring a driving test isn't gatekeeping. Or rather it is, but gatekeeping is an obtuse complaint.
in_cahoots 2y ago
Trust me, if you have female anatomy after the first or second UTI it’s patently obvious when you are getting another one. That’s my point- I can’t think of an easier condition to recognize and self-diagnose than a UTI in a healthy adult.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  But what if it's not presenting normally, or it's the first one? Or it's not female anatomy? Given not all experiences are the same, why are you assuming that your experience is relevant to this other experience? Or have I misread and it is definitely the same?

Suppafly 2y ago

I'm not even sure any of the urgent cares around here are staffed by MDs. All of the NPs are theoretically overseen by an MD but I don't know that they are onsite at all.