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You don't have a right to free transportation. I'd immediately donate money to and vote for any politician stupid enough to say we should revoke licenses from

by pc86 2y ago

You don't have a right to free transportation. I'd immediately donate money to and vote for any politician stupid enough to say we should revoke licenses from the worst 1% of drivers. Revoke their licenses, let them figure it out. Get a ride from friends. Take the bus. Move closer to work. You're a danger. If they break the law and drive anyway, put them in jail.

ryandrake 2y ago
> If they break the law and drive anyway, put them in jail. They are going to drive anyway, because in most of the USA, you need a car to get basically anywhere, including to work. So now instead of just being a bad driver, they're also unemployed and sitting in jail, which taxpayers are paying for. There are people with dozens of DUIs, totally uninsurable, their licenses pretty much permanently revoked, and they still drive every day.
- pc86 2y ago
  Yes, people will break the law. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be punished for it, and it doesn't mean that we shouldn't do things that are good for society (telling bad drivers they're no longer allowed to drive) because some percentage of those people will decide of their own volition to break the law.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > They are going to drive anyway Honestly, arrest them. Someone willing to operate a motor vehicle without a license is one step away from manslaughter.
  - pcwalton 2y ago
    > Someone willing to operate a motor vehicle without a license is one step away from manslaughter. I suspect there are plenty of undocumented immigrants in states that don't have the equivalent of AB 60 licenses who are perfectly safe drivers. Perhaps even safer than licensed drivers, since they have more to lose from moving violations.
    - pc86 2y ago
      We're not talking about people who are here illegally, we're talking about people who have already proven they are incapable or unwilling to operate a motor vehicle safely, get punished for it, and decide to drive anyway.

by pc86 2y ago

ryandrake 2y ago

> If they break the law and drive anyway, put them in jail. They are going to drive anyway, because in most of the USA, you need a car to get basically anywhere, including to work. So now instead of just being a bad driver, they're also unemployed and sitting in jail, which taxpayers are paying for. There are people with dozens of DUIs, totally uninsurable, their licenses pretty much permanently revoked, and they still drive every day.

pc86 2y ago
Yes, people will break the law. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be punished for it, and it doesn't mean that we shouldn't do things that are good for society (telling bad drivers they're no longer allowed to drive) because some percentage of those people will decide of their own volition to break the law.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> They are going to drive anyway Honestly, arrest them. Someone willing to operate a motor vehicle without a license is one step away from manslaughter.
- pcwalton 2y ago
  > Someone willing to operate a motor vehicle without a license is one step away from manslaughter. I suspect there are plenty of undocumented immigrants in states that don't have the equivalent of AB 60 licenses who are perfectly safe drivers. Perhaps even safer than licensed drivers, since they have more to lose from moving violations.
  - pc86 2y ago
    We're not talking about people who are here illegally, we're talking about people who have already proven they are incapable or unwilling to operate a motor vehicle safely, get punished for it, and decide to drive anyway.