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> 4 actual crashes in less than 20K miles Sorry if you're having a car crash every 6 months or less, you shouldn't have a license. Driving a car is privilege

by pc86 2y ago

> 4 actual crashes in less than 20K miles Sorry if you're having a car crash every 6 months or less, you shouldn't have a license. Driving a car is privilege granted to you by your state, and this state is negligent in its protection of everyone else by letting this idiot continue to drive. Sell your car, take the bus, move closer to work, I don't care. More than 3 at-fault crashes in a year or more than 10 at-fault crashes ever and you should permanently lose your license forever. That seems more than generous enough.

potato3732842 2y ago
It's probably some old "bingo and church" driver who has a 50-50 shot of winding up in the ditch if it snows during Bingo and that "20k" is actually "8yr", the kind of thing insurance would never know about if you're not getting towing coverage through them.
derf_ 2y ago
> Sorry if you're having a car crash every 6 months or less, you shouldn't have a license. Actual traffic enforcement does not seem to produce this result. This woman is fairly famous on Reddit for her erratic driving, and was reported in 2019 as having been involved in 31 crashes since 2000: https://www.wral.com/story/lawyer-stayumbl-driver-a-victim-of-social-media-frenzy/18408573/ https://www.wral.com/story/lawyer-stayumbl-driver-a-victim-o... She is still driving (with a new license plate after 2019): https://old.reddit.com/r/bullcity/comments/1ji3y82/jesusdos_is_at_it_again/ https://old.reddit.com/r/bullcity/comments/1ji3y82/jesusdos_...
eightysixfour 2y ago
There is already a mechanism for this that the government doesn’t even have to be directly involved in - insurance. At some point you become prohibitively expensive to insure. However, the government still has to do its part and actually enforce insurance requirements. My pet hypothesis is that there is a tipping point where the feedback loop between driver safety, ai advancements, and insurance costs will doom manually driven cars faster than most people think.
- nomel 2y ago
  > At some point you become prohibitively expensive to insure. This would probably just cause more uninsured drivers. For California, that's around 17% [1]! [1] https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-uninsured-motorists https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-uninsure...
  - eightysixfour 2y ago
    Yes, that’s why I said > However, the government still has to do its part and actually enforce insurance requirements.
magicalhippo 2y ago
Here in Norway we've got a point system[1], and I'm sure we didn't invent it. Each point lasts for 3 years, and if you accumulate more than 8 you lose your license for 6 months. A speeding ticket is at least two points, and running a red light or tailgating is three for example. You get double points the first two years after getting your license. [1]: https://www.vegvesen.no/en/driving-licences/driving-licence-holders/penalty-points/ https://www.vegvesen.no/en/driving-licences/driving-licence-...

by pc86 2y ago

potato3732842 2y ago

It's probably some old "bingo and church" driver who has a 50-50 shot of winding up in the ditch if it snows during Bingo and that "20k" is actually "8yr", the kind of thing insurance would never know about if you're not getting towing coverage through them.

derf_ 2y ago

> Sorry if you're having a car crash every 6 months or less, you shouldn't have a license. Actual traffic enforcement does not seem to produce this result. This woman is fairly famous on Reddit for her erratic driving, and was reported in 2019 as having been involved in 31 crashes since 2000: https://www.wral.com/story/lawyer-stayumbl-driver-a-victim-of-social-media-frenzy/18408573/ https://www.wral.com/story/lawyer-stayumbl-driver-a-victim-o... She is still driving (with a new license plate after 2019): https://old.reddit.com/r/bullcity/comments/1ji3y82/jesusdos_is_at_it_again/ https://old.reddit.com/r/bullcity/comments/1ji3y82/jesusdos_...

eightysixfour 2y ago

There is already a mechanism for this that the government doesn’t even have to be directly involved in - insurance. At some point you become prohibitively expensive to insure. However, the government still has to do its part and actually enforce insurance requirements. My pet hypothesis is that there is a tipping point where the feedback loop between driver safety, ai advancements, and insurance costs will doom manually driven cars faster than most people think.

nomel 2y ago
> At some point you become prohibitively expensive to insure. This would probably just cause more uninsured drivers. For California, that's around 17% [1]! [1] https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-uninsured-motorists https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-uninsure...
- eightysixfour 2y ago
  Yes, that’s why I said > However, the government still has to do its part and actually enforce insurance requirements.

magicalhippo 2y ago

Here in Norway we've got a point system[1], and I'm sure we didn't invent it. Each point lasts for 3 years, and if you accumulate more than 8 you lose your license for 6 months. A speeding ticket is at least two points, and running a red light or tailgating is three for example. You get double points the first two years after getting your license. [1]: https://www.vegvesen.no/en/driving-licences/driving-licence-holders/penalty-points/ https://www.vegvesen.no/en/driving-licences/driving-licence-...