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What you are trying to say? Can you be more explicit.

ourhouse509 2y ago
I think they're trying to convey "don't throw stones at glass houses." It sounds like they're trying to make the argument that if you're not practicing what you're preaching then you shouldn't preach. Not saying I agree with the sentiment; but I think that's what they're going for. The reality is that you can have it both ways. I own an iPhone, I know how to build a computer, I buy software, and I know how to code. There is value in understanding how the things you have work, but that doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't buy a high quality product just because you can't take it apart.
Cheer2171 2y ago
They are trying to make the argument that is parodied in this meme: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-somewhat https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som...
akoboldfrying 2y ago
The comment I responded to implies a lack of availability of repairable devices. I'm trying to make the point that the market does in fact offer them, but that consumer choice is overwhelmingly in favour of locked-down shiny things -- leading to wild proliferation of the latter. This preference is so strong that even those who complain about the lack of repairability choose locked-down-and-shiny over repairability, perhaps without even consciously realising it. It's tiring to read again and again about evil external forces wrecking the world, when the choices are our own, and right in front of our faces.
- Teever 2y ago
  But you understand that the quality of those repairdble devices that exist on the mark is far less than the quality of the standard devices on the market because more money goes into their R&D due to the scale of entrenched players and that this means that these goods aren't directly comparable. I would prefer a scenario where monopolists were broken up and regulators mandated open designs that can be repaired.
- wing-_-nuts 2y ago
  Look, there is a large difference between certain state of the art devices that I would not have a hope of repairing, and things that can be simple to repair like major appliances, cars, etc. I'm currently doing a load of clothes in my washer and drier. They're commercial grade beasts from the 90's, and when they've broken, we've been able to fix them with cheap replacement parts.

I think they're trying to convey "don't throw stones at glass houses." It sounds like they're trying to make the argument that if you're not practicing what you're preaching then you shouldn't preach. Not saying I agree with the sentiment; but I think that's what they're going for. The reality is that you can have it both ways. I own an iPhone, I know how to build a computer, I buy software, and I know how to code. There is value in understanding how the things you have work, but that doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't buy a high quality product just because you can't take it apart.

Cheer2171 2y ago

They are trying to make the argument that is parodied in this meme: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-somewhat https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som...

akoboldfrying 2y ago

The comment I responded to implies a lack of availability of repairable devices. I'm trying to make the point that the market does in fact offer them, but that consumer choice is overwhelmingly in favour of locked-down shiny things -- leading to wild proliferation of the latter. This preference is so strong that even those who complain about the lack of repairability choose locked-down-and-shiny over repairability, perhaps without even consciously realising it. It's tiring to read again and again about evil external forces wrecking the world, when the choices are our own, and right in front of our faces.

Teever 2y ago
But you understand that the quality of those repairdble devices that exist on the mark is far less than the quality of the standard devices on the market because more money goes into their R&D due to the scale of entrenched players and that this means that these goods aren't directly comparable. I would prefer a scenario where monopolists were broken up and regulators mandated open designs that can be repaired.
wing-_-nuts 2y ago
Look, there is a large difference between certain state of the art devices that I would not have a hope of repairing, and things that can be simple to repair like major appliances, cars, etc. I'm currently doing a load of clothes in my washer and drier. They're commercial grade beasts from the 90's, and when they've broken, we've been able to fix them with cheap replacement parts.