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Or worse, decades in the future when historians look back, they might determine that collapse started before 2025 (perhaps 9/11, 2008 financial collapse, covid,
by perrygeo 2y ago
Or worse, decades in the future when historians look back, they might determine that collapse started before 2025 (perhaps 9/11, 2008 financial collapse, covid, the re-emergence of populist fascism, AI, microplastics, climate change ... take your pick).
Which means we might be living in collapse now, we just don't know it yet. "The Long Emergency" as James Howard Kunstler put it.
- panarky 2y agoHasn't Kunstler been predicting the imminent end of oil supplies since the 1990s? When a professional prognosticator's prognostications continue to be falsified by actual events, year after endless year, at some point don't people stop listening to them?
- andsoitis 2y agowhat do you think about the idea, though?
- -__---____-ZXyw 2y ago> When a professional prognosticator's prognostications continue to be falsified by actual events, year after endless year, at some point don't people stop listening to them? Funnily enough - not whatsoever! And the benefits of this amazing fact are reaped by economists* the world over, year after year. * And, to be fair, journalists, politicians, various flavours of youtuber, etc, etc.
- UltraSane 2y ago"When a professional prognosticator's prognostications continue to be falsified by actual events, year after endless year, at some point don't people stop listening to them?" Yet people still listen to Musk about when Tesla will have autonomous driving.
- peppers-ghost 2y agowe'll be terraforming mars soon I just know it!
- gblargg 2y agoLike falling into a black hole; you don't notice as it happens, only looking back with more context.
- rixed 2y agoOh I see now, thank you for the helpful analogy! :)
- alfiedotwtf 2y agoEmpires that collapsed not by military conquest didn’t know that they had collapsed until years later.
- cgio 2y agoIs there any Empire that collapsed without military conquest? You can argue the collapse predated the conquest, but there’s always a conquest to seal the deal.
- murderfs 2y agoThe British Empire didn't collapse due to military conquest by the Germans, it fell due to economic conquest by the United States (see the Atlantic Charter and U.S. intervention in the Suez Crisis).
- UltraSane 2y agoThe creation of Fox News