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I would agree. Republicans and then Americans voted for T a second time, after Jan 6. They knew what he stood for. So this change is baked in. The US is abandon

by jemmyw 2y ago

I would agree. Republicans and then Americans voted for T a second time, after Jan 6. They knew what he stood for. So this change is baked in. The US is abandoning the world order they set and maintained since WWII. Looking back, I think this started well before Trump anyway, probably with Obama. The promise is that Americans will be better off, and it's not a terribly hard sell: why should you pay to defend the world, why shouldn't you take more when you're the strongest. I doubt it'll work out that way, the problems that have been building up for so long are the result of inequality, corporatism and internal social factors. Maybe your snowballs were rolling long before you noticed.

stego-tech 2y ago
> Looking back, I think this started well before Trump anyway, probably with Obama. In said essay, I make the argument that the original inflection point was the rejection of Jimmy Carter's policies of self-sacrifice today for a brighter future tomorrow, in favor of Reagan and that hot new girl at the party, Neoliberalism. From there it was a cancer that just ate away at institutions, traditions, policies, decorum, and every level of government as voters time, after time, after time, adopted a position of "F*k you, got mine". Everything after - Bill Clinton's welfare reform and Lewinsky scandal, the Bush-Iraq double-features, Obama's and the Dem's non-punishment of the finance sector post-'08, and the failure to properly hold accountable Trump et al after Jan 6, all contributed to the decline in their own ways. That's why I'm so confident that it's over: it's been in progress for decades.