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Sure, you can sue the hollowed out shell of a bankrupt limited liability corporation that will soon have no assets for a court to sieze for whatever paltry dama

Sure, you can sue the hollowed out shell of a bankrupt limited liability corporation that will soon have no assets for a court to sieze for whatever paltry damages a court finds.

wyldfire 2y ago
Ideally the court can compel the purchaser(s) to destroy the data.
- HankB99 2y ago
  > > this is more like "requesting the data to be deleted". > Ideally the court can compel the purchaser(s) to destroy the data. I suppose a court order holds more weight than checking a box on a web site, but I'm not sure how much I'd trust the eventual purchaser. Worse yet, if the seller drops their guard (due to lack of funding for proper security) will someone steal the data? At that point web requests and court orders are moot. I guess I'm seeing a black hat behind every bush. I'm not sure if this kind of data has any value on the black market.
- red-iron-pine 2y ago
  > Ideally the current US presidential administration is in the process of completely hollowing out the US judicial system. nothing in the courts can be trusted if the SCOTUS can't be trusted. but even with sane leadership there is nothing preventing stuff from being leaked or sold. unless you can physically verify the shred-it guys destroying the disks, it's out there.
baranul 2y ago
Good point. There is no confirming the data was actually deleted, beyond the request to do so. There is nobody to go after, as the new owner does not have to respect the request, unless a court orders them to do so. Even in that case, going after the new owner, it would appear to be time critical. Can users stop the selling or transfer of data, before any court could block it? The correct timing, appears to be that 23andMe would have had an opt-out, blocking the selling or transfer of their data. That also should have included confirmation of data deletion, if requested. Since none of that existed, the options for users are quite limited. In fact, many would have participated in 23andMe Research, so their data was likely going to wherever long before.
ashoeafoot 2y ago
You might get half a office chair , for a lifetime of disadvantages .
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  With current pricing, may have to settle for a single caster. One functional chair base per atomic family, sorry everyone else.

Sure, you can sue the hollowed out shell of a bankrupt limited liability corporation that will soon have no assets for a court to sieze for whatever paltry damages a court finds.

wyldfire 2y ago

Ideally the court can compel the purchaser(s) to destroy the data.

HankB99 2y ago
> > this is more like "requesting the data to be deleted". > Ideally the court can compel the purchaser(s) to destroy the data. I suppose a court order holds more weight than checking a box on a web site, but I'm not sure how much I'd trust the eventual purchaser. Worse yet, if the seller drops their guard (due to lack of funding for proper security) will someone steal the data? At that point web requests and court orders are moot. I guess I'm seeing a black hat behind every bush. I'm not sure if this kind of data has any value on the black market.
red-iron-pine 2y ago
> Ideally the current US presidential administration is in the process of completely hollowing out the US judicial system. nothing in the courts can be trusted if the SCOTUS can't be trusted. but even with sane leadership there is nothing preventing stuff from being leaked or sold. unless you can physically verify the shred-it guys destroying the disks, it's out there.

baranul 2y ago

Good point. There is no confirming the data was actually deleted, beyond the request to do so. There is nobody to go after, as the new owner does not have to respect the request, unless a court orders them to do so. Even in that case, going after the new owner, it would appear to be time critical. Can users stop the selling or transfer of data, before any court could block it? The correct timing, appears to be that 23andMe would have had an opt-out, blocking the selling or transfer of their data. That also should have included confirmation of data deletion, if requested. Since none of that existed, the options for users are quite limited. In fact, many would have participated in 23andMe Research, so their data was likely going to wherever long before.

ashoeafoot 2y ago

You might get half a office chair , for a lifetime of disadvantages .

bravetraveler 2y ago
With current pricing, may have to settle for a single caster. One functional chair base per atomic family, sorry everyone else.