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Going through pre-clearance in Canada would put you at much lower risk of hoover-age by ICE. According to the Preclearance Act all CBP can do is detain you unti
by arcticbull 2y ago
Going through pre-clearance in Canada would put you at much lower risk of hoover-age by ICE. According to the Preclearance Act all CBP can do is detain you until they hand you over to the Canadian police - section 14(2) - ... and maybe a light strip search if the situation warrants - section 13(1). [1]
[1] https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/P-19.32/FullText.html https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/P-19.32/FullText.ht...
[edit] There's also pre-clearance facilities at Dublin and Shannon in Ireland, and sprinkled around the Caribbean. Abu Dhabi has one but visiting Emirati jail is not top of my to-do list.
- SR2Z 2y agoI'm sure that you have a point, according to written policy and law. Trump has made a point of not caring about stuff like that, so who really knows?
- arcticbull 2y agoPreclearance happens on Canadian soil, it's not an embassy. They would have to literally kidnap you and take you on a commercial flight to the US. If you're worried about the US kidnapping you from foreign countries, then I strongly suggest you speak to an attorney because I suspect you have bigger things to worry about than a Florida vacation. [edit] Ah, I see, I didn't catch that you meant on arrival. I suppose that is a risk, but it does seem like you'd really have to make someone's shit list to be admitted only to then immediately be removed.
- twothreeone 2y agoI think they meant CBP snatching you up at a port of entry regardless of your pre-clearance status.
- littlestymaar 2y agoYeah, given that they have been detaining green cards holders all bets are off.
- IIsi50MHz 2y ago…without charging them, and without any prior criminal record.
- sorcerer-mar 2y agoOr literally anywhere else in the country. A week 1 priority was expanding CBP's Constitution-free purview for expedited expulsion across the entire country.
- a_cardboard_box 2y agoThey could allow you to enter and then detain you when you land in the US.
- ipaddr 2y agoIf today's news tells us Trump is kidnapping people from other countries I doubt anyone would be shocked and it wouldn't even be frontpage news.
- jay_kyburz 2y agoI'm fairly sure I read something yesterday about ICE making "collateral" arrests in raids.
- hbsbsbsndk 2y agoThe state of "the law" in the United States is that you can be grabbed off the street at any point, denied a trial and detained indefinitely. As someone outside the US I would not risk visiting even if it's "unlikely". Especially as a member of a minority that is currently unpopular with the US government.
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- propagandist 2y agoHell, you might end up in a Salvadoran prison providing forced labor.
- churchill 2y agoYeah, look on the brighter side. Human rights are temporary; Salvadoran GDP is forever /s
- blipvert 2y ago> hoover-age I presume that you allude to a vacuuming kind of process of your details, but rather apt now that the US has entered a new Hoover age.
- Arnt 2y agoMuch lower risk, ok. But the question is, why risk it instead of going elsewhere? To the Bahamas instead of Florida?
- mmooss 2y agoGiven the current situation, people also may not want to hand over their personal information and identity to be stored in a US government database.