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If nothing can happen in the US without a corporate lobby backing it, maybe the tourism industry will re-inject some care for due process and rule of law into s
by whatshisface 2y ago
If nothing can happen in the US without a corporate lobby backing it, maybe the tourism industry will re-inject some care for due process and rule of law into security. Abuses have been a non-partisan flaw growing in magnitude, little by little for many years now, far beyond anyone's interests.
- cmrdporcupine 2y agoIt's not about "security" Stop threatening to annex us, apologize at a diplomatic level, and drop the unjust tariffs. I don't even know why the US ambassador hasn't been summoned before the PM for scolding at this point.
- briandear 2y agoHow about Canada drop their tariffs? Canada had tariffs long before Trump came around. And nobody is seriously threatening to annex Canada.
- Sanzig 2y agoWhat tariffs do you want dropped? Please be specific. The vast majority of US and Canadian trade has been tariff-free since the 1980s when the US-Canada Free Trade Agreement was signed. USMCA is also up for renegotiation in 2026, so if the US is upset about tariffs on things like dairy, the appropriate venue would be to negotiate at that time. The US already agreed to the existing tariff structure when the first USMCA deal was signed in 2018 under the previous Trump administration. To specifically address dairy tariffs, US dairy in Canada is actually currently tariff-free because there is a volume cap and the tariffs only apply when that volume cap is exceeded. Currently the US is only using about 40% of that cap. Finally, the U.S. President is extremely serious about his annexation threats. He said this multiple times, it's not a joke. We do not treat it as a joke in Canada. Please do not insult us by trying to gaslight us.
- cmrdporcupine 2y agoIndeed. Marco Rubio repeated Trump's annexation threat while on Canadian soil during the G7. I am not sure why we're supposed to treat this as a "bad joke"
- briandear 2y agohttps://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CAN/Year/2015/TradeFlow/Import/Partner/USA/Product/All-Groups https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CAN/Yea... Canadian tariffs on American imports pre-Trump.
- Sanzig 2y agoSo let me get this straight. As per your link, the weighted tariff rate is 0.98% in 2015. That is tiny. The average tariff rate with the European Union is about five times that. And again, this is before the updated USMCA deal that the US agreed to. Please explain to me why a 0.98% average effective tariff rate justifies retribution in the form of 25% to 50% tariffs. Please also explain why it's justifiable, again, for a 0.98% effective tariff rate, to threaten to economically destroy a country and force it to be annexed. To be clear, even with massive economic damage to Canada, we will not be willingly annexed, ever. If you want our country, you must invade. That is ultimately what the annexation threat is. It is a threat of invasion.
- seryoiupfurds 2y agoThen why did Trump choose to negotiate and sign the USMCA?
- 9rx 2y ago> Currently the US is only using about 40% of that cap. To be fair, setting up any kind of serious supply chain with that hard limit on growth isn't going to be a terribly appealing investment on either side of the border. Not approaching the cap now does not imply that volume wouldn't increase if all tariffs were eliminated.
- cmrdporcupine 2y ago
- genocidicbunny 2y agoSome things are not a 'not serious' matter, no matter how much one tries to claim it to be a joke or just a random musing. It's like trying to joke about touching little kids -- why are you even thinking about that?
- dave4420 2y agoWhen the US president repeatedly threatens to annex your country, you don’t have the luxury of being able to laugh it off. Why would anyone even think it’s funny?
- dragon-hn 2y agoWill the Americans stop massive dairy over production that is supported by government programs like “government cheese”? Or massive farm subsidies? You need to expand your view beyond the latest talking points.
- whatshisface 2y agoSecurity in the US is an euphemism for all that. Linguistically it works like, "defense."
- rchaud 2y agoThe Airbnb co-founder is at DOGE now, so I wouldn't hold out much hope. https://www.yahoo.com/news/airbnb-hosts-ditch-platform-billionaire-231654028.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/airbnb-hosts-ditch-platform-billi...
- apercu 2y agoThat would be nice. Otherwise, we're going to lose ~2 billion dollars in lost revenue from Canadians visiting the US, and with that ~14,000 jobs.
- rcpt 2y agoAirline employees were some of Ts biggest donors and admitting you're wrong is a cardinal sin in maga.
- scarface_74 2y agoAll of the lobbyists in the US won’t outspend Musk. Every institution is afraid of Trump and kowtowing to him - law firms, colleges, corporations, the media and especially Republican politicians.
- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoIt's astonishing to an outsider that U.S. politics is so openly available to be influenced by money - I would consider that to be outright corruption.
- School-Cotton 2y agoGiven that politics in most countries is corrupt (or outright authoritarian/dictatorship/totalitarian), why are you astonished that the US is any different? I see this sentiment a lot -- that for some reason the U.S. naturally "should" be a well-run developed country, and so it's surprising that it scores worse on various metrics than, say, Western Europe. But why? Is it just because the US is wealthy? Saudi Arabia is wealthy too and an absolute monarchy. If it's not fair to compare the US to Eritrea, then it's not fair to compare it to Norway. It just is what it is, somewhere in between those two on the spectrum.