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None of this stuff even existed 3 years ago and you're asking like we're talking about self-driving cars. What hubris. My god.

hansmayer 2y ago
There is no hubris. The LLM technology has actually been existing for at least two decades, it's not some sudden breakthrough we suddenly discovered. And given the many billions of dollars it has sucked in, it's definitely a pile of crap. I have been a paying customer of Github Copilot for at least a year. Since the google search has been completely messed up, sometimes it can be useful to look up some cryptic error message. It can also sometimes help recall syntax of something. But it's not the magic machine they've been touting, it's definitely not the AGI, and my god, it's very prone to errors and to anyone who admires this tech, please for the love of god double- and tripple-check the crap that they generate, before you commit it to production. And by now it definitely feels like the 'self-driving' cars 'revolution'. They have been 'just around the corner', for like what, 15 years now?
- miguelacevedo 2y ago
  I’m sorry but you will be the first to go in this new age. LLMs today are absolutely mind blowing, along with this image stuff. Either learn to adapt or remain a boomer.
  - hansmayer 2y ago
    Go where mate, to Sam Altman's retirement home for UBI recipients ? I studied neural networks while you were still a "concept of a plan" in the mind of your parents and unlike you, I know how they work. As one of the early and paying adopters of the technology, it would have been great if they worked as advertised. But they don't, and the only people "to go" will be idiots who think that a technology that 1) anyone can use 2) produces un-reliable outputs.. 3)..while sounding authoritative makes them an expert. Guess what, if both you and your buddy and your entire school can spin up a website with a few prompts, how much is your "skill" worth on the market? Ever heard of demand and offering? To me looks eerily similar to how the smartphones and social networks made everyone "technologists" ;)
- bobxmax 2y ago
  No, LLMs have not exited for two decades. What a stupid comment. Millions of people are spending thousands of dollars because they're recieving tens of thousands of dollars of value from it. Of course it's impossible to explain that to thickheaded dinosaurs on HN who think they're better than everyone and god's gift to IQ.
  - hansmayer 2y ago
    Please read more carefully.The LLM technology exists for at least two decades, well actually even more.You know the technology the LLMs are based on (neural networks, machine learning etc). I am not sure if after smartphones, the LLMs will now further impact intelligence of people like you. And take note: I have been one of the early adopters and I am actually paying for usage. My criticism comes from a realistic assesment of the actual value these tools provide, vs. what the marketing keeps promising (beyond trivial stuff like spinning up simple web apps). Oh by the way, I peeked into your comment history. I see you're one of those non-technical vibe-coder types. Well good luck with that mate and let us know how is your codebase doing in about a year (as someone else already warned you). And if you have any customers, make sure you arrange for a huge insurance coverage, you may need it.
    - bobxmax 2y ago
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      - hansmayer 2y ago
        Did you use all of your 1-year-junior-dev experience to come to this comment? Or did you ask gemini to sum it up for you?
        joquarky 2y ago
        I am leaning toward agreeing with your statements, but this is not good etiquette for HN.
        bobxmax 2y ago
Jensson 2y ago
> None of this stuff even existed 3 years ago Copilot has existed since 2021. "What hubris. My god." listen to yourself...
- bobxmax 2y ago
  Wow 4 years ago you sure showed me buddy

hansmayer 2y ago

There is no hubris. The LLM technology has actually been existing for at least two decades, it's not some sudden breakthrough we suddenly discovered. And given the many billions of dollars it has sucked in, it's definitely a pile of crap. I have been a paying customer of Github Copilot for at least a year. Since the google search has been completely messed up, sometimes it can be useful to look up some cryptic error message. It can also sometimes help recall syntax of something. But it's not the magic machine they've been touting, it's definitely not the AGI, and my god, it's very prone to errors and to anyone who admires this tech, please for the love of god double- and tripple-check the crap that they generate, before you commit it to production. And by now it definitely feels like the 'self-driving' cars 'revolution'. They have been 'just around the corner', for like what, 15 years now?

miguelacevedo 2y ago
I’m sorry but you will be the first to go in this new age. LLMs today are absolutely mind blowing, along with this image stuff. Either learn to adapt or remain a boomer.
- hansmayer 2y ago
  Go where mate, to Sam Altman's retirement home for UBI recipients ? I studied neural networks while you were still a "concept of a plan" in the mind of your parents and unlike you, I know how they work. As one of the early and paying adopters of the technology, it would have been great if they worked as advertised. But they don't, and the only people "to go" will be idiots who think that a technology that 1) anyone can use 2) produces un-reliable outputs.. 3)..while sounding authoritative makes them an expert. Guess what, if both you and your buddy and your entire school can spin up a website with a few prompts, how much is your "skill" worth on the market? Ever heard of demand and offering? To me looks eerily similar to how the smartphones and social networks made everyone "technologists" ;)
bobxmax 2y ago
No, LLMs have not exited for two decades. What a stupid comment. Millions of people are spending thousands of dollars because they're recieving tens of thousands of dollars of value from it. Of course it's impossible to explain that to thickheaded dinosaurs on HN who think they're better than everyone and god's gift to IQ.
- hansmayer 2y ago
  Please read more carefully.The LLM technology exists for at least two decades, well actually even more.You know the technology the LLMs are based on (neural networks, machine learning etc). I am not sure if after smartphones, the LLMs will now further impact intelligence of people like you. And take note: I have been one of the early adopters and I am actually paying for usage. My criticism comes from a realistic assesment of the actual value these tools provide, vs. what the marketing keeps promising (beyond trivial stuff like spinning up simple web apps). Oh by the way, I peeked into your comment history. I see you're one of those non-technical vibe-coder types. Well good luck with that mate and let us know how is your codebase doing in about a year (as someone else already warned you). And if you have any customers, make sure you arrange for a huge insurance coverage, you may need it.
  - bobxmax 2y ago
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    - hansmayer 2y ago
      Did you use all of your 1-year-junior-dev experience to come to this comment? Or did you ask gemini to sum it up for you?
      - joquarky 2y ago
        I am leaning toward agreeing with your statements, but this is not good etiquette for HN.
      - bobxmax 2y ago

Jensson 2y ago

> None of this stuff even existed 3 years ago Copilot has existed since 2021. "What hubris. My god." listen to yourself...

bobxmax 2y ago
Wow 4 years ago you sure showed me buddy