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Transit that is safe will never sprout if you keep building parking lots.

bigstrat2003 2y ago
Maybe, maybe not. But you need to solve people's transportation problems first, not claim that if they give up car transportation options something else will materialize later.
- thesuitonym 2y ago
  I never said otherwise, but continuing to prioritize cars only makes everything, even car travel, worse.
  - dmitrygr 2y ago
    > > But you need to solve people's transportation > > problems first, not claim that if they give up > > car transportation options something else will > > materialize later . > I never said otherwise, but continuing to prioritize > cars only makes everything, even car travel, worse. . You have JUST said otherwise! You want to deprioritize what works in favour of what does not exist while offering no path for it to exist and dodging the reality that no such path exists.
    - thesuitonym 2y ago
      Okay, thank you for telling me what I want to do. You see, I thought I wanted start working on other forms of transit while still leaving cars as they are. I thought I wanted to stop saying one more lane will fix it, and actually try adding transit options. I thought I wanted to build safe sidewalks and bike infrastructure that actually goes somewhere, instead of just adding more parking lots. I'm really glad you were here to tell me what I actually wanted. I'm glad you were here to twist my words up so bad that I finally understand that what I really wanted is to completely get rid of cars overnight, and then sit around on our thumbs and hope that someday a magic carpet will come and carry us all off to our destinations.
Workaccount2 2y ago
The more popular mass transit becomes, the better the proposition of driving a car becomes. You cannot escape that as transit drives down traffic and frees up parking, cars become much more enjoyable to use.
- Edman274 2y ago
  It is taken as flatly impossible that parking would be reclaimed for other uses?
  - rickydroll 2y ago
    We don't build parking smart here in the States, period. Parking lots should be multi-story to serve multiple buildings and have an array of solar panels on the roof to contribute to the city's power needs.
- guhidalg 2y ago
  In theory? In practice and when I have a choice, I will always pick mass transit instead of driving because I prefer to walk and avoid the hassles of traffic lights, risk of crashing or running someone over, wear and tear on my car, gasoline, etc...
  - dmitrygr 2y ago
    > I will always pick mass transit I'm going to guess you've never had some drugged-up crazy try to stab you in a bus? After the second time it happens, you never ever consider it again. Life is too short to die like that.
    - thesuitonym 2y ago
      I'm going to guess you've never had some drugged-up crazy nearly ram into you at high speed in a car? Life is too short to die like that, and to spend it sitting in traffic to boot.
      - 2y ago

bigstrat2003 2y ago

Maybe, maybe not. But you need to solve people's transportation problems first, not claim that if they give up car transportation options something else will materialize later.

thesuitonym 2y ago
I never said otherwise, but continuing to prioritize cars only makes everything, even car travel, worse.
- dmitrygr 2y ago
  > > But you need to solve people's transportation > > problems first, not claim that if they give up > > car transportation options something else will > > materialize later . > I never said otherwise, but continuing to prioritize > cars only makes everything, even car travel, worse. . You have JUST said otherwise! You want to deprioritize what works in favour of what does not exist while offering no path for it to exist and dodging the reality that no such path exists.
  - thesuitonym 2y ago
    Okay, thank you for telling me what I want to do. You see, I thought I wanted start working on other forms of transit while still leaving cars as they are. I thought I wanted to stop saying one more lane will fix it, and actually try adding transit options. I thought I wanted to build safe sidewalks and bike infrastructure that actually goes somewhere, instead of just adding more parking lots. I'm really glad you were here to tell me what I actually wanted. I'm glad you were here to twist my words up so bad that I finally understand that what I really wanted is to completely get rid of cars overnight, and then sit around on our thumbs and hope that someday a magic carpet will come and carry us all off to our destinations.

Workaccount2 2y ago

The more popular mass transit becomes, the better the proposition of driving a car becomes. You cannot escape that as transit drives down traffic and frees up parking, cars become much more enjoyable to use.

Edman274 2y ago
It is taken as flatly impossible that parking would be reclaimed for other uses?
- rickydroll 2y ago
  We don't build parking smart here in the States, period. Parking lots should be multi-story to serve multiple buildings and have an array of solar panels on the roof to contribute to the city's power needs.
guhidalg 2y ago
In theory? In practice and when I have a choice, I will always pick mass transit instead of driving because I prefer to walk and avoid the hassles of traffic lights, risk of crashing or running someone over, wear and tear on my car, gasoline, etc...
- dmitrygr 2y ago
  > I will always pick mass transit I'm going to guess you've never had some drugged-up crazy try to stab you in a bus? After the second time it happens, you never ever consider it again. Life is too short to die like that.
  - thesuitonym 2y ago
    I'm going to guess you've never had some drugged-up crazy nearly ram into you at high speed in a car? Life is too short to die like that, and to spend it sitting in traffic to boot.
    - 2y ago