I first heard the term "deep state" when Erdogan started going on about it. It seems to equate to government employees loyal to their country rather than the au

I first heard the term "deep state" when Erdogan started going on about it. It seems to equate to government employees loyal to their country rather than the autocrat of the moment. So it only really comes to be a thing with iffy autocrats. Before that the people are just loyal patriotic types.