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Who are "they"? The cloud could be hosted by you.

1over137 2y ago
The article suggests: "store it on your cloud storage like iCloud, Google Drive or Microsoft One Drive" She's specifically suggesting that instead of taking a small chance on having your phone searched, to upload it to 1 of 3 American companies, all revealed by Edward Snowdon to collaborate with American government snooping. Crazy.
- pocketarc 2y ago
  There is a big difference between storing your data in the same cloud as millions of others, and having someone individually unlock and look at your phone. My phone has: * Photos going back 10+ years * Emails going back 10+ years * Messages going back 10+ years * All passwords (restricted, but if you're at the border and the person tells you to open it, you'll have to) * Access to all files on my home NAS If you got access to my phone and wanted to snoop around, you'd get... everything, all at once, all right there for you to see. There's SO much personal data. Even in airplane mode. It's all local. Some of it is stored in companies' clouds, but surely you see the difference between my having my emails with fastmail, files on iCloud Drive, passwords with 1Password, and... "you have direct physical access to a fully unlocked phone and can force me to unlock any part of it, and you have no restrictions, and you don't have to 'collaborate' with Apple or any other company to get that data part by part".
  - EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
    My phone has nothing of these. However, there is a password in my head that would allow me to download 30+ years of photos etc from the cloud and another password in my head that would allow me to decrypt the downloaded data. In case my head fails, my children have the backup in their heads)
SecretDreams 2y ago
Right? Surely the guardian expects all its readers to self-host cloud services /s.
postepowanieadm 2y ago
That's another problem: you really don't know. Anyone may hack your cloud account/server.

The article suggests: "store it on your cloud storage like iCloud, Google Drive or Microsoft One Drive" She's specifically suggesting that instead of taking a small chance on having your phone searched, to upload it to 1 of 3 American companies, all revealed by Edward Snowdon to collaborate with American government snooping. Crazy.

pocketarc 2y ago
There is a big difference between storing your data in the same cloud as millions of others, and having someone individually unlock and look at your phone. My phone has: * Photos going back 10+ years * Emails going back 10+ years * Messages going back 10+ years * All passwords (restricted, but if you're at the border and the person tells you to open it, you'll have to) * Access to all files on my home NAS If you got access to my phone and wanted to snoop around, you'd get... everything, all at once, all right there for you to see. There's SO much personal data. Even in airplane mode. It's all local. Some of it is stored in companies' clouds, but surely you see the difference between my having my emails with fastmail, files on iCloud Drive, passwords with 1Password, and... "you have direct physical access to a fully unlocked phone and can force me to unlock any part of it, and you have no restrictions, and you don't have to 'collaborate' with Apple or any other company to get that data part by part".
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
  My phone has nothing of these. However, there is a password in my head that would allow me to download 30+ years of photos etc from the cloud and another password in my head that would allow me to decrypt the downloaded data. In case my head fails, my children have the backup in their heads)

SecretDreams 2y ago

Right? Surely the guardian expects all its readers to self-host cloud services /s.

postepowanieadm 2y ago

That's another problem: you really don't know. Anyone may hack your cloud account/server.