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That's borderline propaganda... By that logic, Cloudflare would be providing "tech support" to cybercrime rings just because some criminals used its DDoS protec

That's borderline propaganda... By that logic, Cloudflare would be providing "tech support" to cybercrime rings just because some criminals used its DDoS protection. If we apply the same standard, every major tech company, from Google to Namecheap, would be guilty of offering "tech support" to cybercriminals on a daily basis.

hypeatei 2y ago
But the article says they publicly posted about being "valued partners" with DiamondCDN. That seems to be more than just some criminals signing up and using the CDN. At the very least it creates more questions than answers, no?
- deweller 2y ago
  Is a public post from a cybercrime ring credible evidence? I get that the potential connection may warrant more investigation. But I don't see any real evidence of anything in this article other than they were a customer of DiamondCDN for an unknown amount of time.
- fastball 2y ago
  Emphasis on they (the cybercriminals) posting about it, right? Does it seem reasonable to take the word of the cybercriminals at face value? Usually a lot of this stuff is tongue in cheek anyway. e.g. if a cybercrime group puts out a public statement saying "thanks FBI for making your systems so easy to hack", a reasonable headline derived from that would be "FBI aids cybercriminals with hacking"?
  - hypeatei 2y ago
    > Does it seem reasonable to take the word I don't know why you'd put your provider on blast like that unless you knew they'd resist any pressure or just not care about shady activities. It would just cause more issues for you (the criminal) if they cut service.
    - fastball 2y ago
      Glad we're giving so much credit to criminals for rationality and reasonable behavior.
llm_nerd 2y ago
There is a stark difference between businesses that incidentally have a tiny percentage of customers engaged in crime, and one that panders specifically to the criminal element. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-graduated-from-the-com/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-... "Big Balls" came out of this cybercrime area, and this was specifically where he promoted his business. This cybercrime company is the single known customer of his "CDN", so it's a bit laughable trying to bunch it in with mainstream companies. If someone sells burner phones to crack dealers on street corners, don't try to tell me they're just like Verizon.
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rapsin4 2y ago
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hypeatei 2y ago

But the article says they publicly posted about being "valued partners" with DiamondCDN. That seems to be more than just some criminals signing up and using the CDN. At the very least it creates more questions than answers, no?

deweller 2y ago
Is a public post from a cybercrime ring credible evidence? I get that the potential connection may warrant more investigation. But I don't see any real evidence of anything in this article other than they were a customer of DiamondCDN for an unknown amount of time.
fastball 2y ago
Emphasis on they (the cybercriminals) posting about it, right? Does it seem reasonable to take the word of the cybercriminals at face value? Usually a lot of this stuff is tongue in cheek anyway. e.g. if a cybercrime group puts out a public statement saying "thanks FBI for making your systems so easy to hack", a reasonable headline derived from that would be "FBI aids cybercriminals with hacking"?
- hypeatei 2y ago
  > Does it seem reasonable to take the word I don't know why you'd put your provider on blast like that unless you knew they'd resist any pressure or just not care about shady activities. It would just cause more issues for you (the criminal) if they cut service.
  - fastball 2y ago
    Glad we're giving so much credit to criminals for rationality and reasonable behavior.

llm_nerd 2y ago

There is a stark difference between businesses that incidentally have a tiny percentage of customers engaged in crime, and one that panders specifically to the criminal element. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-graduated-from-the-com/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-... "Big Balls" came out of this cybercrime area, and this was specifically where he promoted his business. This cybercrime company is the single known customer of his "CDN", so it's a bit laughable trying to bunch it in with mainstream companies. If someone sells burner phones to crack dealers on street corners, don't try to tell me they're just like Verizon.

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rapsin4 2y ago

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