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What makes you think there is a domestic energy crisis? Spot prices are comparable with neighboring countries: https://www.energyprices.eu/ https://www.energypr
by master-lincoln 2y ago
What makes you think there is a domestic energy crisis?
Spot prices are comparable with neighboring countries: https://www.energyprices.eu/ https://www.energyprices.eu/
- mytailorisrich 2y ago"Apart from a complacent reliance on Russian gas throughout its period of fast growth, Germany’s energy policy faces a detrimental resistance to nuclear energy, a sluggish transition to green energy, and an incredibly slow bureaucracy, all contributing to the nation’s energy crisis." [1] [1] https://hir.harvard.edu/germanys-energy-crisis-europes-leading-economy-is-falling-behind/ https://hir.harvard.edu/germanys-energy-crisis-europes-leadi...
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- master-lincoln 2y agoAh ok, an opinion piece from last year makes you think that.
- martin_a 2y agoI will call bullshit over and over again. Especially companies rested on a relaxed foundation of artifically low energy prices due to lobbyism and dependence on cheap Russian gas. Both is gone and companies face "true" prices and have to deal with them. Nevertheless, energy generation from renewables is rising and rising, more and more renewable capacity is added to the grid each week and laws have been loosened to enable a faster transition.
- mytailorisrich 2y agoI won't get into what might be considered "artificially low prices" and "true prices", but isn't what you describe an energy crisis, then? I picked an illustrative article that explains things. Germany has been hit by an energy crisis as a matter of concensus and fact, not opinion. You can easily research the topic if you are actually curious and interested.
- sharpshadow 2y agoThe dependence on Russian gas is still prevalent in Germany but it now comes through transit. Consider that there are many machines that use it, which can’t be replaced immediately.
- roenxi 2y agoI usually look at things like https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use?tab=chart&country=~DEU https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use?tab... And you can't use spot prices in the way you're trying to for a few reasons - firstly, those countries will all have interconnects with each other so the prices harmonise - if one country has a whole problem the whole area has a problem (which might be what we can see in the prices, coincidentally). Secondly the overall cost of electricity isn't set on the median day but by what happens on extreme days (dead of winter or height of summer, depending on where in the world you are). Thirdly, a lot of German policy seems to involve taxes applied after the electricity has been sold.
- master-lincoln 2y ago> I usually look at things like https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use?tab https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use?tab... This shows per capita energy consumption steadily decreased from ~1985 to 2023 almost back to the level of 1960. Should that indicate an energy crisis? The graphs from the whole EU or the USA don't look much different so I don't see how the chart helps. What numbers could be looked at to identify that energy crisis?
- roenxi 2y agoYou seem to have spotted all the salient features, I'm not sure what you want me to add. To the questions - yes and those numbers. I remain mystified by the people who can look at a 25% drop in energy use, steady relative collapse of power relative to Asia and the gentle collapse of the political fabric and just shrug and say everything is fine. I dunno what the AfD needs to poll at before the German elite admit that maybe they screwed up the last few decades. The statistics suggest there is a massive problem here.
- master-lincoln 2y agoBut then we would have that same massive problem in the USA and the whole of Europe. Is that the case?
- GardenLetter27 2y agoCompare it with the USA though... Europe is just a collection of crises - migration, energy, age demographics, productivity.