> That said I don't like contributing to the business model of paying for privacy - seems broken. I fully agree. But to be fair, in a other comment someone li

> That said I don't like contributing to the business model of paying for privacy - seems broken. I fully agree. But to be fair, in a other comment someone linked to a website [0] explaining that the app could be used without connection to internet. So in this case perhaps Bosch didn't have as much of a malicious intent as originally thought. Quote from the link: However, [..], the BSH "HomeConnect" appliances have a no-cloud mode built into their app without any hacks required to disconnect them from the internet. They do require a one-time connection to perform key exchange of a long-live authorization key, but from then on the appliances can be operated entirely disconnected from the network. [0] https://trmm.net/homeconnect/#no-cloud-mode https://trmm.net/homeconnect/#no-cloud-mode