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Of course big corp media like NYT would report on injustices in red states, especially Texas. Next door to NYT in the deep blue state of Massachusetts, two men

Of course big corp media like NYT would report on injustices in red states, especially Texas. Next door to NYT in the deep blue state of Massachusetts, two men have been arrested for simple trespass even though they had valid active IDs. Cops simply took the ID and left it out of police report, and never turned it over to the DA or the defense as exculpatory evidence. All with complete impunity and re-arrested them half a dozen times again repeating the same exact way! You'd think where gay marriage was first legalized (and has a lesbian governor), plenty lawyers would take such cases. They've had to go through six lawyers because they refused plea bargain deals so that the dirty cops would have to testify under oath. But the corrupt DA dropped each and every charge on the days of trials, to save the cops from perjury; but not until after nearly two years of fake and phony court hearings to make sure these two lose their jobs or give up their rights. You'll never read their story on the front page of NYT or any other big corp media because it happened right at the heart of Massachusetts in Cambridge/Boston on the precious private property of an elite university.

BrenBarn 2y ago
Can you provide a link to a non-big-corp-media source where we can read about it?
- FilosofumRex 2y ago
  No, because cases are very recent , as in 2024-25 and one is still pending. I got it from a local court listener who said they had filed an 800 page lawsuit against alleging various undisclosed connections between major corps, elite universities and the notorious Jeffery Epstein.
  - NotYourLawyer 2y ago
    An 800 page lawsuit full of conspiracy theories? Sounds legit.
    - lynch_autists 2y ago
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    - FilosofumRex 2y ago
      It's technically public record and is available for your review. Both men are highly educated and had no prior records which is why they've been able to fight their cases. one is a Yale/Harvard mathematician and actually worked for the Lincoln & Draper Labs where he alleges Epstein was funding the lie-detector cheating research. The other had been a research fellow with MIT Energy Initiative and was at the Media Lab when Epstein was funding them. So judge for yourself...
      - alabastervlog 2y ago
        > lie-detector cheating research I'm sure (?) they had some better angle on it than this, but I'm laughing here imagining some poor, incredibly bored researchers going "did lie detectors actually work this time, despite not working in the prior 1,000 studies we ran? Let me check... nope, sure didn't! Oh well, we'll start the next study tomorrow, I wonder what the outcome will be..."
- xkcd-sucks 2y ago
  I realize this is somewhat off topic but Massachusetts State Police is notoriously corrupt. Some recent items off the top of my head which have been covered extensively in mainstream media: * The overtime scandal; TLDR for years there has been a culture of falsifying overtime often in multiple excess of base salary * A recruit was beaten to death in an alleged hazing incident * Accepting bribes to pass CDL inspections * Drug labs faking results, 21k convictions overturned... years later * The Karen Read drama, which is just embarrassing regardless of who's the murderer It's honestly kind of hard to find refs for some of the specific incidents I'm thinking of, because the search results are masked by other similar incidents! Just for starters, https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epic-drug-lab-scandal-results-more-20-000-convictions-dropped-n747891 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epic-drug-lab-scandal-r... https://www.wcvb.com/article/recent-massachusetts-state-police-scandals-overview/46588773 https://www.wcvb.com/article/recent-massachusetts-state-poli... https://www.wcvb.com/article/massachusetts-state-police-trainees-forced-to-crawl-on-hot-pavement-20-injured-report-says/40739518 https://www.wcvb.com/article/massachusetts-state-police-trai... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_State_Police#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_State_Police#Con...
  - FilosofumRex 2y ago
    It's considered one of the most corrupt police forces in the country. It's former head John DiFava gets $123,764 a year pension, MIT police chief job at $300k and looking for choice rocks on the MBTA public property. No Trespass charge or theft, while his goons issue hundred of those charges every year. https://howiecarrshow.com/onetime-head-of-state-police-has-a-really-rocky-day/ https://howiecarrshow.com/onetime-head-of-state-police-has-a... Needless to say MIT police officers look up to and emulate Chief DiFava: Joseph D’Amelio had arrested a student for protesting, twice - long before Trump: https://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/mitai-announce/2004-August/000098.html https://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/mitai-announce/2004-August... but turned up to be a gangster drug dealer himself: https://www.campussafetymagazine.com/news/former-mit-police-officer-on-trial-for-drug-trafficking/20957/ https://www.campussafetymagazine.com/news/former-mit-police-... Duane Keegan had also arrested two MIT student hakers and tried to cover up for his drug dealer buddy D'Amelio. He was fired and quietly rehired and is now implicated in the witness intimidation case of the two whistleblowers mentioned below: https://thetech.com/2009/05/08/keegan-v129-n25 https://thetech.com/2009/05/08/keegan-v129-n25
mcherm 2y ago
There is a HUGE difference between what the NYT article is reporting on and the case you describe. Certainly the Massachusetts case you describe is as bad as -- probably worse than -- the Texas case described by the NYT article. But the NYT was using that specific case as an illustration; the point of the article is that this is happening REGULARLY, even to a majority of the cases in that county. One-off failures of justice are unavoidable (because no system can be 100% perfect) but they must be aggressively stamped out to maintain the integrity of the system. System-wide failures mean that the integrity of the system is already gone.
- FilosofumRex 2y ago
  It's not one off case at all. Strategic use of seemingly benign charges like trespass, etc by university or private police departments is just the tip of the iceberg. Police typically attaches a few other frivolous charges such as B&E, theft, disorderly conduct, and resisting arrest. This makes it very expensive to hire private attorneys and court appointed attorneys refuse to go to trial and DA drags it along for year or two before dismissing them on the eve of the trial. In Massachusetts private police enjoys both the un-constitutional qualified immunity doctrine, and exemption from FOIA document requirements, even though they're in uniform, have badges, carry weapons and make arrests. That makes very difficult to litigate this racket and to get any documentary proof. https://casetext.com/case/harvard-crimson-v-president-and-fellows-of-harvard https://casetext.com/case/harvard-crimson-v-president-and-fe...
thinkcontext 2y ago
> Of course big corp media like NYT would report on injustices in red states, especially Texas. NYT in particular reports all the time about injustices in blue states. Its done a string of stories on the horrific stories on Rykers Island prison. There's also been extensive coverage of prison conditions in California.

BrenBarn 2y ago

Can you provide a link to a non-big-corp-media source where we can read about it?

FilosofumRex 2y ago
No, because cases are very recent , as in 2024-25 and one is still pending. I got it from a local court listener who said they had filed an 800 page lawsuit against alleging various undisclosed connections between major corps, elite universities and the notorious Jeffery Epstein.
- NotYourLawyer 2y ago
  An 800 page lawsuit full of conspiracy theories? Sounds legit.
  - lynch_autists 2y ago
    [dead]
  - FilosofumRex 2y ago
    It's technically public record and is available for your review. Both men are highly educated and had no prior records which is why they've been able to fight their cases. one is a Yale/Harvard mathematician and actually worked for the Lincoln & Draper Labs where he alleges Epstein was funding the lie-detector cheating research. The other had been a research fellow with MIT Energy Initiative and was at the Media Lab when Epstein was funding them. So judge for yourself...
    - alabastervlog 2y ago
      > lie-detector cheating research I'm sure (?) they had some better angle on it than this, but I'm laughing here imagining some poor, incredibly bored researchers going "did lie detectors actually work this time, despite not working in the prior 1,000 studies we ran? Let me check... nope, sure didn't! Oh well, we'll start the next study tomorrow, I wonder what the outcome will be..."
xkcd-sucks 2y ago
I realize this is somewhat off topic but Massachusetts State Police is notoriously corrupt. Some recent items off the top of my head which have been covered extensively in mainstream media: * The overtime scandal; TLDR for years there has been a culture of falsifying overtime often in multiple excess of base salary * A recruit was beaten to death in an alleged hazing incident * Accepting bribes to pass CDL inspections * Drug labs faking results, 21k convictions overturned... years later * The Karen Read drama, which is just embarrassing regardless of who's the murderer It's honestly kind of hard to find refs for some of the specific incidents I'm thinking of, because the search results are masked by other similar incidents! Just for starters, https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epic-drug-lab-scandal-results-more-20-000-convictions-dropped-n747891 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epic-drug-lab-scandal-r... https://www.wcvb.com/article/recent-massachusetts-state-police-scandals-overview/46588773 https://www.wcvb.com/article/recent-massachusetts-state-poli... https://www.wcvb.com/article/massachusetts-state-police-trainees-forced-to-crawl-on-hot-pavement-20-injured-report-says/40739518 https://www.wcvb.com/article/massachusetts-state-police-trai... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_State_Police#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_State_Police#Con...
- FilosofumRex 2y ago
  It's considered one of the most corrupt police forces in the country. It's former head John DiFava gets $123,764 a year pension, MIT police chief job at $300k and looking for choice rocks on the MBTA public property. No Trespass charge or theft, while his goons issue hundred of those charges every year. https://howiecarrshow.com/onetime-head-of-state-police-has-a-really-rocky-day/ https://howiecarrshow.com/onetime-head-of-state-police-has-a... Needless to say MIT police officers look up to and emulate Chief DiFava: Joseph D’Amelio had arrested a student for protesting, twice - long before Trump: https://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/mitai-announce/2004-August/000098.html https://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/mitai-announce/2004-August... but turned up to be a gangster drug dealer himself: https://www.campussafetymagazine.com/news/former-mit-police-officer-on-trial-for-drug-trafficking/20957/ https://www.campussafetymagazine.com/news/former-mit-police-... Duane Keegan had also arrested two MIT student hakers and tried to cover up for his drug dealer buddy D'Amelio. He was fired and quietly rehired and is now implicated in the witness intimidation case of the two whistleblowers mentioned below: https://thetech.com/2009/05/08/keegan-v129-n25 https://thetech.com/2009/05/08/keegan-v129-n25

mcherm 2y ago

There is a HUGE difference between what the NYT article is reporting on and the case you describe. Certainly the Massachusetts case you describe is as bad as -- probably worse than -- the Texas case described by the NYT article. But the NYT was using that specific case as an illustration; the point of the article is that this is happening REGULARLY, even to a majority of the cases in that county. One-off failures of justice are unavoidable (because no system can be 100% perfect) but they must be aggressively stamped out to maintain the integrity of the system. System-wide failures mean that the integrity of the system is already gone.

FilosofumRex 2y ago
It's not one off case at all. Strategic use of seemingly benign charges like trespass, etc by university or private police departments is just the tip of the iceberg. Police typically attaches a few other frivolous charges such as B&E, theft, disorderly conduct, and resisting arrest. This makes it very expensive to hire private attorneys and court appointed attorneys refuse to go to trial and DA drags it along for year or two before dismissing them on the eve of the trial. In Massachusetts private police enjoys both the un-constitutional qualified immunity doctrine, and exemption from FOIA document requirements, even though they're in uniform, have badges, carry weapons and make arrests. That makes very difficult to litigate this racket and to get any documentary proof. https://casetext.com/case/harvard-crimson-v-president-and-fellows-of-harvard https://casetext.com/case/harvard-crimson-v-president-and-fe...

thinkcontext 2y ago

> Of course big corp media like NYT would report on injustices in red states, especially Texas. NYT in particular reports all the time about injustices in blue states. Its done a string of stories on the horrific stories on Rykers Island prison. There's also been extensive coverage of prison conditions in California.