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I went down that path. Don't. I ended dumping my PHEV at a massive loss (2018 Pacifica PHEV) due to all the mechanical and electronic problems in the vehicle.
by gwbas1c 2y ago
I went down that path. Don't. I ended dumping my PHEV at a massive loss (2018 Pacifica PHEV) due to all the mechanical and electronic problems in the vehicle.
The problem with PHEVs is that they are super-complicated, mechanically; and much more complicated than a conventional vehicle. It's hard to find a mechanic who will work on them when they get old. If they have problems, like mine did, even the factory / dealer mechanic will struggle, because they are all low-volume cars.
Then, you still need to get oil changes. The only thing you need to do with an EV are tires, washer fluid, and air filters.
> And on the occasional long trip it would be more convenient than an EV due to gas stations being more widely available and faster than EV charging stations while still being economical.
That's really not the case. On long trips I take bathroom breaks at Superchargers. It's enough:
I drove from MA to Washington DC, and there were so many Superchargers I just didn't think about charging. When I left the hotel, I went to a Whole Foods with a supercharger, grabbed lunch at the buffet, and was ready to go.
I drove from MA to Montreal. I stopped twice to pee on the way up, and that was long enough. The hotel had chargers. On the way home I charged at a grocery store to buy stuff for a picnic, and then charged again at a bathroom break.
At most Superchargers I now see non-Teslas, too, so don't feel like you have to buy a Tesla if you want to use a Supercharger.
- geoka9 2y agoWhat about a Toyota PHEV (Prime)? And how much more complicated they are than a (non-plugin) hybrid?
- gwbas1c 2y agoAt that point, the money you spend on a complicated drivetrain is better spent on a bigger battery. (I personally didn't like the Prius prime when I test drove it in 2013.) Keep in mind that big batteries charge "faster." On a road trip, a 200 mile EV will need more time to charge 60 to 200 miles then charging a 300 mile EV 80 to 220 miles. One of the major advantage of an EV is low maintenance. You'll have to bring the Prime in for oil changes. You don't need to do that with an EV.