><tangent opening line of my comment> From people on Reddit: Something that blows my mind- but is fully true "Hell, I've been in fucking EVE Online alliances th

><tangent opening line of my comment> From people on Reddit: Something that blows my mind- but is fully true "Hell, I've been in fucking EVE Online alliances that had better opsec than this." "I'll raise you one: I've never been in any EVE alliance that didn't have better opsec than this." That is some seriously selective memory https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4cdmmc/wtf_is_going_on_the_answer/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4cdmmc/wtf_is_going_on... https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4dvoj5/sma_diplosleadership_leaking_shit_all_over/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4dvoj5/sma_diplosleade... https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4f3epd/a_different_kind_of_chat_log_leak_and_a_message/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4f3epd/a_different_kin... And here's some more recent ones https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1f6t1vw/your_relays_are_not_nearly_as_secure_as_you_hope/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1f6t1vw/your_relays_ar... https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1g3p232/alcoholic_satan_kicked_from_csm_18_barred_from/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1g3p232/alcoholic_sata... Major alliance infrastructure and security is probably better than most US corporations but doesn't come close to secure government systems, obviously