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In the banking world, employees have been fined significant sums, or even forced from their jobs [0], for unauthorized use of messaging platforms. And here, it'

• hoistbypetard 2y ago
  In the government world, people have been jailed for it. Not people so directly connected to a president, though.
  • billy99k 2y ago
    Heh. Like when they arrested someone for running their own mail server and sending classified information through it? Oh wait...
    • jjeaff 2y ago
      yes, after months and months of investigations and hearing and non-stop new coverage and a Republican led committee that admitted in their final report that while there was negligence, they couldn't find any wrong doing.
  • StefanBatory 2y ago
    Laws no longer apply to them - laws bound people below. If you're interested what will follow, look into Russia or Hungary.
• jillyboel 2y ago
  Rules for thee but not for me. Now get back to work, peasant.
• swiftymon 2y ago
  it's not unauthorized use of signal; "Government officials have used Signal for organizational correspondence, such as scheduling sensitive meetings, but in the Biden administration, people who had permission to download it on their White House-issued phones were instructed to use the app sparingly, according to a former national security official who served in the administration." https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/heres-what-to-know-about-signal-the-messaging-app-used-in-apparent-leak-war-plans-journalist https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/heres-what-to-know-about...
  • jedberg 2y ago
    It absolutely is an unauthorized use. Authorize use is "let's go to lunch". This was "let's bomb these people at this time". Big difference.
  • ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
    Buttery Males!
  • EgregiousCube 2y ago
    It's too bad that this is being downvoted - swiftymon is trying to provide some context. It's useful to the discussion and well sourced. I'd love to read counterarguments rather than have this fade away :)
    • andelink 2y ago
      TFA article discusses how officials have long used Signal for routine logistics, contrasting that with the national defense plans being discussed in a group chat with a journalist
    • Jtsummers 2y ago
      Because their claim is false and unsupported by their quote. It is absolutely unauthorized for government employees to conduct discussions like this on services like Signal. It's not even allowed for CUI level discussions, and war planning pushes into Secret and TS territory very quickly. Organizational discussions means things like, for a standard fed on a TDY with others, "Meet in the lobby at 0700 so we can drive to the site for the meeting at 0800." Not "So we're going to use ... to attack ... at ...", which is almost certainly Secret or TS once aggregated.
• PokestarFan 2y ago
  Who's going to arrest them?
  • basisword 2y ago
    This is why you have a constitution, codified laws, judicial system, separation of powers, etc. We're just learning now none of these things are worth the paper they're written on.
    • ChocolateGod 2y ago
      It's just as useful and effective as the international law and order that was setup after WW2. So nada.
      • johannes1234321 2y ago
        As long as you build an order around independence of countries and diplomacy (instead of, say, force) any organisation will only be as useful as countries are willing to follow and any structure can only be as good as the ones in charge are willing to go. In consequences there are many flaws and a lot is stuck in post WW2 thinking, but I doubt there is a realistic chance of anything overall better. The current U.S. administration tries to reshape things by disruption, we will see how this goes, but I doubt this will earn trust and buy-in from others. Thus not lead to a stable and "better" system. (While better, of course, is not globally objective, which again is key to the problem)
    • bamboozled 2y ago
      Would you say that was always the case, or just a more recent development?
      • bboygravity 2y ago
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      • groby_b 2y ago