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I was calling out the $1,000 specifically because that’s what the poster above me mentioned, and I remember that coming up very often back when his CEO stint ha

by kirb 2y ago

I was calling out the $1,000 specifically because that’s what the poster above me mentioned, and I remember that coming up very often back when his CEO stint happened. But, yes, not the only donation he’s made. And I’m sure Mozilla is furiously looking around for new funding sources right now, governments could be of interest, but I expect them to be very careful about letting money influence the product. They know their independence is a key feature, and Google has so far allowed them to remain independent aside from default search engine choice.

eesmith 2y ago
While I'm pointing out to both of you that criticizing "[t]he people who are making choices and citing the one time Eich gave $1,000 to a political cause" sounds like a deliberate strawman when the linked-to criticism lists three different donations. And yeah, I don't want to work for someone who likes paleoconservative Pat Buchanan enough to give him money. As for "They know their independence is a key feature", the question is, what sort of independence? Like, how much do they value their independence to do user-based profiling, if a sov. tech fund says that's completely forbidden. Should we respect that sort of independence?
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- roenxi 2y ago
  > And yeah, I don't want to work for someone who likes paleoconservative Pat Buchanan enough to give him money. How many people have you worked for? You've probably already violated this principle. His views aren't exactly fringe and he's reasonably popular. Eich was giving him money because his position was reasonably popular position in the US tech scene. The Bush family ended up disgracing itself so there is a great argument that Buchanan should have been president when he stood against Bush in the 1992 primary.
  - eesmith 2y ago
    There is a reason I am self-employed, and have been since the 1990s. When there is easy freedom to change jobs, as there had been in tech for decades, then tech workers can be picky about their employer.

by kirb 2y ago

eesmith 2y ago

While I'm pointing out to both of you that criticizing "[t]he people who are making choices and citing the one time Eich gave $1,000 to a political cause" sounds like a deliberate strawman when the linked-to criticism lists three different donations. And yeah, I don't want to work for someone who likes paleoconservative Pat Buchanan enough to give him money. As for "They know their independence is a key feature", the question is, what sort of independence? Like, how much do they value their independence to do user-based profiling, if a sov. tech fund says that's completely forbidden. Should we respect that sort of independence?

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roenxi 2y ago
> And yeah, I don't want to work for someone who likes paleoconservative Pat Buchanan enough to give him money. How many people have you worked for? You've probably already violated this principle. His views aren't exactly fringe and he's reasonably popular. Eich was giving him money because his position was reasonably popular position in the US tech scene. The Bush family ended up disgracing itself so there is a great argument that Buchanan should have been president when he stood against Bush in the 1992 primary.
- eesmith 2y ago
  There is a reason I am self-employed, and have been since the 1990s. When there is easy freedom to change jobs, as there had been in tech for decades, then tech workers can be picky about their employer.