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Yes, but that's insane, isn't it? Whi's going to buy a Tesla now? Eco conscious left wingers hate Musk with all their heart, and right wingers hate electric car

by bambax 2y ago

Yes, but that's insane, isn't it? Whi's going to buy a Tesla now? Eco conscious left wingers hate Musk with all their heart, and right wingers hate electric cars or any mention of climate change. Who's left?

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zzzeek 2y ago
the solution is obvious that Musk will introduce a gas powered Tesla this year
- RandomBacon 2y ago
  It would be funny, but a vehicle with an extended range generator would solve a lot of people's complaints about electric vehicles, so I wouldn't be surprised as I laugh at such an announcement. There are still other issues that I have with Tesla vehicles, but I am looking forward to see how RAM's upcoming Ramcharger will do (all electric drivetrain with built-in generator for extended range).
  - rsynnott 2y ago
    The BMW i3 had one as an option. Virtually no-one bought that version.
    - ZeroGravitas 2y ago
      I think it was a roughly 50/50 sales mix with a slight win for the range extender up until the point they discontinued it as an option in later revisions (with larger batteries). They had some mechanical issues with the fuel line that was a fire risk and they software locked it to reduce the tank capacity by 20% in the US so it wouldn't be classed as a plug in hybrid, but even with those problems I've generally heard positive things about it. Basically acting as reserve to avoid range anxiety on early small battery EVs when it was all quite new.
cloverich 2y ago
I have seen at least ten of the new model Teslas in Portland Oregon (one of or most liberal city in US) the last month. At least SOME people are still buying them.
treis 2y ago
People have been saying Tesla is wildly overvalued for a decade now. Which logically I can't really dispute but at some point you can't logically continue to ignore how the market values it either. I'm rooting for Musk to fall on his face as much as the next guy. But I'm not delusional enough to substitute my desired reality for actual reality. By any measure Musk has had a remarkably successful year or so. He's much richer and wields more influence over the government than any non-president in history that I can think of.

by bambax 2y ago

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zzzeek 2y ago

the solution is obvious that Musk will introduce a gas powered Tesla this year

RandomBacon 2y ago
It would be funny, but a vehicle with an extended range generator would solve a lot of people's complaints about electric vehicles, so I wouldn't be surprised as I laugh at such an announcement. There are still other issues that I have with Tesla vehicles, but I am looking forward to see how RAM's upcoming Ramcharger will do (all electric drivetrain with built-in generator for extended range).
- rsynnott 2y ago
  The BMW i3 had one as an option. Virtually no-one bought that version.
  - ZeroGravitas 2y ago
    I think it was a roughly 50/50 sales mix with a slight win for the range extender up until the point they discontinued it as an option in later revisions (with larger batteries). They had some mechanical issues with the fuel line that was a fire risk and they software locked it to reduce the tank capacity by 20% in the US so it wouldn't be classed as a plug in hybrid, but even with those problems I've generally heard positive things about it. Basically acting as reserve to avoid range anxiety on early small battery EVs when it was all quite new.

cloverich 2y ago

I have seen at least ten of the new model Teslas in Portland Oregon (one of or most liberal city in US) the last month. At least SOME people are still buying them.

treis 2y ago

People have been saying Tesla is wildly overvalued for a decade now. Which logically I can't really dispute but at some point you can't logically continue to ignore how the market values it either. I'm rooting for Musk to fall on his face as much as the next guy. But I'm not delusional enough to substitute my desired reality for actual reality. By any measure Musk has had a remarkably successful year or so. He's much richer and wields more influence over the government than any non-president in history that I can think of.