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You're assuming it was a business transaction. Of course not. Musk never intended to make a direct profit. As a political transaction, if anything, Musk paid v

by yyyk 2y ago

You're assuming it was a business transaction. Of course not. Musk never intended to make a direct profit. As a political transaction, if anything, Musk paid very little for what he got.

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JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Musk never intended to make a direct profit Musk didn't intend to buy Twitter. That's incredibly clear from his statements in and out of court in the months leading up to the purchase. (Also, the fact that he had to be dragged into court.) Musk being Musk, however, once he was forced to, made lemonade from lemons.
- ohgr 2y ago
  I believe that’s sewage from shit in this case.
DonHopkins 2y ago
He overpaid that much so he could publicly humiliate and bully and lie about his own trans daughter who he hates so much in public to his hundreds of millions of followers without getting banned, so it was worth it to him. Financing stochastic terrorism ain't cheap, and a lot of innocent people get caught up in the crossfire of his personal family feuds against the "woke mind virus". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism >Stochastic terrorism is a form of political violence instigated by hostile public rhetoric directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished with indirect, vague or coded language, which grants the instigator plausible deniability for any associated violence. A key element of stochastic terrorism is the use of media for propagation, where the person carrying out the violence may not have direct connection to any other users of violent rhetoric. MSNBC guest accuses Musk and Libs of TikTok of promoting 'stochastic terrorism' on Twitter. Kristofer Goldsmith claimed Elon Musk is deliberately trying to turn Twitter into a 'raging cesspool': https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-guest-musk-libs-tiktok-promoting-stochastic-terrorism-twitter https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-guest-musk-libs-tiktok-p... >An MSNBC guest accused Elon Musk of promoting "stochastic terrorists" like Libs of TikTok to cultivate an "extreme far-right audience" on Twitter Monday. >During a segment on "Deadline: White House" focused on the emergence of extremist groups in the U.S., host Nicole Wallace asked self-declared fascism-fighter Kristofer Goldsmith to discuss how Musk's purchase of Twitter has contributed to the issue. >"Elon Musk is very deliberately cultivating an extreme far-right audience, and very specifically an anti-trans audience," Goldsmith, who serves as CEO of Veterans Fighting Fascism, responded. >Goldsmith claimed that Twitter accounts like Libs of TikTok and Gays Against Groomers created a "trans panic" online by using "slurs to try to dehumanize trans-Americans and trans individuals abroad and say that they're predatory toward children." He also blamed them for causing alleged threats against "drag events." >Both accounts repost others' social media content to expose members of the LGBTQ+ community and others who espouse radical views to children. >"What they’re doing is they’re taking this like QAnon myth, their Pizzagate pedophile conspiracy theory…and they’re mainstreaming it. All through what has become one of the most, whether we like it or not, important social media platforms in existence," Goldsmith said. >According to his website, Goldsmith, who has made frequent appearances on MSNBC, describes himself an "investigator and consultant who takes an unconventional approach to fighting against domestic fascist organizations and unlawful militias." >Goldsmith told Wallace that he believes Musk is intentionally destroying Twitter and turning it "into a raging cesspool because Elon thinks he has something to gain from the chaos." >"That is why he is promoting not just stochastic terrorism on his own, but he’s interacting with stochastic terrorists like Libs of TikTok and Gays Against Groomers and all of these other far-right activists who single out the trans community and the broader LGBTQ+ community with acts of violence and threats of violence," he alleged. >Libs of TikTok, which boasts over 1.4 million followers on Twitter, was suspended six times prior to Musk's takeover for allegedly violating the platform's "hateful conduct" policy. The second installment of the "Twitter Files," revealed last week that Twitter internally acknowledged that the account had "not directly engaged in behavior violative of the Hateful Conduct policy" but still proceeded with the suspensions anyway. >The account publicly thanked Musk for giving her a sense of "vindication" by publicizing Twitter's internal communications. >"They suspended me multiple times knowing I never violated any policies. This is what happens when you talk about things that they don’t want you to talk about," she wrote on Twitter. "So glad those days on Twitter are over. Thanks @elonmusk." >Musk responded to her post, promising to make Twitter "much better" under his leadership. >"You’re welcome. Twitter won’t be perfect in the future," he tweeted, "but it will be much better."
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Macha 2y ago
> You're assuming it was a business transaction. Of course not. Musk never intended to make a direct profit. > As a political transaction, if anything, Musk paid very little for what he got. I think the fact that he tried to get out of it, indicates that this wasn't a long term plan, though he did eventually make political use out of it.
- cma 2y ago
  And if they let him out of it he could have always immediately made another cheaper offer.
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- ergocoder 2y ago
  He tried to get out because the market crashed. FB went down like 3x. I don’t think there is anything more than that. There was no harm in trying to get out and potentially buying it at a half price. He tried and failed.
- root_axis 2y ago
  I think he bargained on getting a lower price, but it was definitely a political decision, it's only that the horse he was originally betting on was DeSantis. After that fell through he eventually found his way to Trump.

by yyyk 2y ago

You're assuming it was a business transaction. Of course not. Musk never intended to make a direct profit. As a political transaction, if anything, Musk paid very little for what he got.

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JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Musk never intended to make a direct profit Musk didn't intend to buy Twitter. That's incredibly clear from his statements in and out of court in the months leading up to the purchase. (Also, the fact that he had to be dragged into court.) Musk being Musk, however, once he was forced to, made lemonade from lemons.

ohgr 2y ago
I believe that’s sewage from shit in this case.

DonHopkins 2y ago

He overpaid that much so he could publicly humiliate and bully and lie about his own trans daughter who he hates so much in public to his hundreds of millions of followers without getting banned, so it was worth it to him. Financing stochastic terrorism ain't cheap, and a lot of innocent people get caught up in the crossfire of his personal family feuds against the "woke mind virus". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism >Stochastic terrorism is a form of political violence instigated by hostile public rhetoric directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished with indirect, vague or coded language, which grants the instigator plausible deniability for any associated violence. A key element of stochastic terrorism is the use of media for propagation, where the person carrying out the violence may not have direct connection to any other users of violent rhetoric. MSNBC guest accuses Musk and Libs of TikTok of promoting 'stochastic terrorism' on Twitter. Kristofer Goldsmith claimed Elon Musk is deliberately trying to turn Twitter into a 'raging cesspool': https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-guest-musk-libs-tiktok-promoting-stochastic-terrorism-twitter https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-guest-musk-libs-tiktok-p... >An MSNBC guest accused Elon Musk of promoting "stochastic terrorists" like Libs of TikTok to cultivate an "extreme far-right audience" on Twitter Monday. >During a segment on "Deadline: White House" focused on the emergence of extremist groups in the U.S., host Nicole Wallace asked self-declared fascism-fighter Kristofer Goldsmith to discuss how Musk's purchase of Twitter has contributed to the issue. >"Elon Musk is very deliberately cultivating an extreme far-right audience, and very specifically an anti-trans audience," Goldsmith, who serves as CEO of Veterans Fighting Fascism, responded. >Goldsmith claimed that Twitter accounts like Libs of TikTok and Gays Against Groomers created a "trans panic" online by using "slurs to try to dehumanize trans-Americans and trans individuals abroad and say that they're predatory toward children." He also blamed them for causing alleged threats against "drag events." >Both accounts repost others' social media content to expose members of the LGBTQ+ community and others who espouse radical views to children. >"What they’re doing is they’re taking this like QAnon myth, their Pizzagate pedophile conspiracy theory…and they’re mainstreaming it. All through what has become one of the most, whether we like it or not, important social media platforms in existence," Goldsmith said. >According to his website, Goldsmith, who has made frequent appearances on MSNBC, describes himself an "investigator and consultant who takes an unconventional approach to fighting against domestic fascist organizations and unlawful militias." >Goldsmith told Wallace that he believes Musk is intentionally destroying Twitter and turning it "into a raging cesspool because Elon thinks he has something to gain from the chaos." >"That is why he is promoting not just stochastic terrorism on his own, but he’s interacting with stochastic terrorists like Libs of TikTok and Gays Against Groomers and all of these other far-right activists who single out the trans community and the broader LGBTQ+ community with acts of violence and threats of violence," he alleged. >Libs of TikTok, which boasts over 1.4 million followers on Twitter, was suspended six times prior to Musk's takeover for allegedly violating the platform's "hateful conduct" policy. The second installment of the "Twitter Files," revealed last week that Twitter internally acknowledged that the account had "not directly engaged in behavior violative of the Hateful Conduct policy" but still proceeded with the suspensions anyway. >The account publicly thanked Musk for giving her a sense of "vindication" by publicizing Twitter's internal communications. >"They suspended me multiple times knowing I never violated any policies. This is what happens when you talk about things that they don’t want you to talk about," she wrote on Twitter. "So glad those days on Twitter are over. Thanks @elonmusk." >Musk responded to her post, promising to make Twitter "much better" under his leadership. >"You’re welcome. Twitter won’t be perfect in the future," he tweeted, "but it will be much better."

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Macha 2y ago

> You're assuming it was a business transaction. Of course not. Musk never intended to make a direct profit. > As a political transaction, if anything, Musk paid very little for what he got. I think the fact that he tried to get out of it, indicates that this wasn't a long term plan, though he did eventually make political use out of it.

cma 2y ago
And if they let him out of it he could have always immediately made another cheaper offer.
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ergocoder 2y ago
He tried to get out because the market crashed. FB went down like 3x. I don’t think there is anything more than that. There was no harm in trying to get out and potentially buying it at a half price. He tried and failed.
root_axis 2y ago
I think he bargained on getting a lower price, but it was definitely a political decision, it's only that the horse he was originally betting on was DeSantis. After that fell through he eventually found his way to Trump.