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Imagine if people started calling constant functions, programs methods, etc. Words have meanings. Coder does imply that the key thing of those people is produci

Imagine if people started calling constant functions, programs methods, etc. Words have meanings. Coder does imply that the key thing of those people is producing code the same cows make milk. Imagine calling an accountant a typist because the point is to make the computer do what you want it to do.

whywhywhywhy 2y ago
> Imagine calling an accountant a typist Bad analogy because accountants need to be qualified by a centralized body.
boxed 2y ago
> Imagine if people started calling constant functions We are already calling procedures "functions". So it's kinda game over already unfortunately.
torstenvl 2y ago
> the same cows make milk lol what? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milcher https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milcher
- netdevphoenix 2y ago
  Point was that coders are often valued by the amount of code they produced in the same way cows are value by the amount of milk they produce. I feel the usage of "coder" promotes this mentality
  - torstenvl 2y ago
    But it isn't true that "cows are valued by the amount of milk they produce" any more than "men are valued by the amount of code they produce." It's a false statement and a category error. In fact, many cows are not used for milk at all. Some breeds make for great dairy; some breeds make for great beef; but few are great for both... Dexter cattle maybe. (Nobody's out here clamoring for Black Angus cheese and absolutely nobody likes Jersey steak. While a Jersey cow or Holstein cow may be valued in part by the milk they produce, a Japanese Shorthorn or Belgian Blue cow is valued by the muscle tissue she produces and the genes that cause her offspring to produce similar muscle tissue.) Your comparison is a category error. The trait "is valued for milk production" does not pertain to the superclass of "cows" but only to the subclass of "milchers." "Coder" : code :: "milcher" : milk.
    - netdevphoenix 2y ago
      Thanks for the clarification there, but you are going on a tangent there. Point is that people are being valued based on metrics that make no sense. Pointing that my specific example has some error does not detract from the main point and diving into the specifics of cow breeds or whether all cows are used for milk or not is irrelevant imo. The cow-milk analogy was just an example that could be replaced for any other.

whywhywhywhy 2y ago

> Imagine calling an accountant a typist Bad analogy because accountants need to be qualified by a centralized body.

boxed 2y ago

> Imagine if people started calling constant functions We are already calling procedures "functions". So it's kinda game over already unfortunately.

torstenvl 2y ago

> the same cows make milk lol what? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milcher https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/milcher

netdevphoenix 2y ago
Point was that coders are often valued by the amount of code they produced in the same way cows are value by the amount of milk they produce. I feel the usage of "coder" promotes this mentality
- torstenvl 2y ago
  But it isn't true that "cows are valued by the amount of milk they produce" any more than "men are valued by the amount of code they produce." It's a false statement and a category error. In fact, many cows are not used for milk at all. Some breeds make for great dairy; some breeds make for great beef; but few are great for both... Dexter cattle maybe. (Nobody's out here clamoring for Black Angus cheese and absolutely nobody likes Jersey steak. While a Jersey cow or Holstein cow may be valued in part by the milk they produce, a Japanese Shorthorn or Belgian Blue cow is valued by the muscle tissue she produces and the genes that cause her offspring to produce similar muscle tissue.) Your comparison is a category error. The trait "is valued for milk production" does not pertain to the superclass of "cows" but only to the subclass of "milchers." "Coder" : code :: "milcher" : milk.
  - netdevphoenix 2y ago
    Thanks for the clarification there, but you are going on a tangent there. Point is that people are being valued based on metrics that make no sense. Pointing that my specific example has some error does not detract from the main point and diving into the specifics of cow breeds or whether all cows are used for milk or not is irrelevant imo. The cow-milk analogy was just an example that could be replaced for any other.