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The quality of dns always makes or breaks your internet experience. Personally at home unbound on opnsense with some blocking list has always worked really well

The quality of dns always makes or breaks your internet experience. Personally at home unbound on opnsense with some blocking list has always worked really well for me. Openwrt with pihole also works fine. But the moment I have to use some recursive dns like this, I tend to not enjoy the experience.

eudhxhdhsb32 2y ago
Are you just referring to ads not being blocked? A regular dns like quad9 + ublock origin on Firefox has been a consistently great experience for me.
- bayindirh 2y ago
  Probably the responsiveness of things. Firefox is very sensitive to DNS roundtrip time during daily use. A faster response time provides much better experience with it. I guess that ~25% of "Firefox is slow" myth is coming from slow DNS response, if not higher.
  - eudhxhdhsb32 2y ago
    That makes sense. Do you know the reason for Firefox being more sensitive? Is their DNS prefetching not as effective?
    - bayindirh 2y ago
      I honestly have no idea. I observe it all the time, and note repeatedly everywhere when the discussion comes up, but never had the time to dig into the code and see how that all works.
udev4096 2y ago
It really depends. Cloudflare, quad9 or whatever upstream DNS probably has huge cache which makes resolving the queries quite fast. Although, local caching, like with unbound, is still going to be a lot better than any upstream resolver
SparkyMcUnicorn 2y ago
opnsense + ctrld[0] + unbound works great and automatically upgrades upstream requests to DoH (etc.) Was using NextDNS for a while, but stability and performance was a common issue. I like the idea of something like pihole, but ControlD is good, works anywhere, and is easy to manage. [0] https://github.com/Control-D-Inc/ctrld/wiki/pfSense-and-OPNsense-Operations-Guide https://github.com/Control-D-Inc/ctrld/wiki/pfSense-and-OPNs...
buyucu 2y ago
does PiHole cache dns queries and deliver them faster?
- woleium 2y ago
  yes it caches, but it may not deliver them faster, depending on how good your previous dns service was and how good your hardware is.
  - buyucu 2y ago
    just checked my pihole logs and almost all entries are answered by local cache. this is great.

eudhxhdhsb32 2y ago

Are you just referring to ads not being blocked? A regular dns like quad9 + ublock origin on Firefox has been a consistently great experience for me.

bayindirh 2y ago
Probably the responsiveness of things. Firefox is very sensitive to DNS roundtrip time during daily use. A faster response time provides much better experience with it. I guess that ~25% of "Firefox is slow" myth is coming from slow DNS response, if not higher.
- eudhxhdhsb32 2y ago
  That makes sense. Do you know the reason for Firefox being more sensitive? Is their DNS prefetching not as effective?
  - bayindirh 2y ago
    I honestly have no idea. I observe it all the time, and note repeatedly everywhere when the discussion comes up, but never had the time to dig into the code and see how that all works.

udev4096 2y ago

It really depends. Cloudflare, quad9 or whatever upstream DNS probably has huge cache which makes resolving the queries quite fast. Although, local caching, like with unbound, is still going to be a lot better than any upstream resolver

SparkyMcUnicorn 2y ago

opnsense + ctrld[0] + unbound works great and automatically upgrades upstream requests to DoH (etc.) Was using NextDNS for a while, but stability and performance was a common issue. I like the idea of something like pihole, but ControlD is good, works anywhere, and is easy to manage. [0] https://github.com/Control-D-Inc/ctrld/wiki/pfSense-and-OPNsense-Operations-Guide https://github.com/Control-D-Inc/ctrld/wiki/pfSense-and-OPNs...

buyucu 2y ago

does PiHole cache dns queries and deliver them faster?

woleium 2y ago
yes it caches, but it may not deliver them faster, depending on how good your previous dns service was and how good your hardware is.
- buyucu 2y ago
  just checked my pihole logs and almost all entries are answered by local cache. this is great.