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Jeffrey Goldberg on being added to the group chat by Trump Administration

122 points by lighttower 2y ago

Jtsummers 2y ago
Gift link: https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2025/03/jeffrey-goldberg-group-chat-military-houthi-yemen/682160/?gift=LuC6nXerkXTLQWoEoNhRFYSdDVb02dACZhLw6BVrJP4&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2025/03/jeff...
ChrisArchitect 2y ago
Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43462783 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43462783
- emeril 2y ago
  why was this link not easily accessible in the first place?
  - Jtsummers 2y ago
    It was initially flagged when first submitted getting it relegated to the pages 3 and 4. Then it seems the flags got removed (or it got enough upvotes?) so it was on the front page for a few hours. Now it's on the second page (probably a combination of flags, if still enabled, and flamewar detection). It's #3 here: https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active
    - emeril 2y ago
      ah - i usually view using https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/ it seems for whatever reason the above viewer omits it
    - nkurz 2y ago
      I don't think that's quite right. I think some combination of having "Trump" in the title and theatlantic.com as the host and possibly something specific to the submitter penalized it so that it never hit the front page. Since hckrnews.com only shows articles that hit the front, it's not on there. I'm only guessing, but see the graph here: https://hnrankings.info/43462783/ https://hnrankings.info/43462783/. It doesn't show the clear drop that you'd expect with flags or flamewar, and doesn't appear to ever crack #59. If anything, it looks like it rose sharply when penalties were removed.
  - ChrisArchitect 2y ago
    "accessible"? Been on site for half a day, seen by hundreds, gradually getting upvoted and discussed, available on all major HN aggregators etc. Well accessible, but it's old news by tonight. Stuff moves fast around here.
  - ahaferburg 2y ago
    That is my question as well. It has almost 1000 points yet remains on page two of March 24. https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2025-03-24&p=2 https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2025-03-24&p=2
dccoolgai 2y ago
The house GOP guys that dragged Hillary through all those committees are going to be _so mad_ when they find out about this
ahaferburg 2y ago
https://archive.is/R9hQc https://archive.is/R9hQc

122 points by lighttower 2y ago

Gift link: https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2025/03/jeffrey-goldberg-group-chat-military-houthi-yemen/682160/?gift=LuC6nXerkXTLQWoEoNhRFYSdDVb02dACZhLw6BVrJP4&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2025/03/jeff...

ChrisArchitect 2y ago

Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43462783 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43462783

emeril 2y ago
why was this link not easily accessible in the first place?
- Jtsummers 2y ago
  It was initially flagged when first submitted getting it relegated to the pages 3 and 4. Then it seems the flags got removed (or it got enough upvotes?) so it was on the front page for a few hours. Now it's on the second page (probably a combination of flags, if still enabled, and flamewar detection). It's #3 here: https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active
  - emeril 2y ago
    ah - i usually view using https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/ it seems for whatever reason the above viewer omits it
  - nkurz 2y ago
    I don't think that's quite right. I think some combination of having "Trump" in the title and theatlantic.com as the host and possibly something specific to the submitter penalized it so that it never hit the front page. Since hckrnews.com only shows articles that hit the front, it's not on there. I'm only guessing, but see the graph here: https://hnrankings.info/43462783/ https://hnrankings.info/43462783/. It doesn't show the clear drop that you'd expect with flags or flamewar, and doesn't appear to ever crack #59. If anything, it looks like it rose sharply when penalties were removed.
- ChrisArchitect 2y ago
  "accessible"? Been on site for half a day, seen by hundreds, gradually getting upvoted and discussed, available on all major HN aggregators etc. Well accessible, but it's old news by tonight. Stuff moves fast around here.
- ahaferburg 2y ago
  That is my question as well. It has almost 1000 points yet remains on page two of March 24. https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2025-03-24&p=2 https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2025-03-24&p=2

dccoolgai 2y ago

The house GOP guys that dragged Hillary through all those committees are going to be _so mad_ when they find out about this

ahaferburg 2y ago

https://archive.is/R9hQc https://archive.is/R9hQc