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Just a quick reminder, slavery is still common in the United States.

by foxyv 2y ago

kjs3 2y ago
Just a quick reminder, 1/3 of 1% is not 'common'. Unless you (predictably) redefine math and English so you get to be right. https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studies/united-states/ https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studie... https://ourrescue.org/education/research-and-trends/modern-day-slavery https://ourrescue.org/education/research-and-trends/modern-d...
- foxyv 2y ago
  Only 7 of 50 states ban forced labor. Seems pretty common to me.
- samplatt 2y ago
  3.3 people per thousand is pretty common for something that isn't meant to exist at all. I could meet 1000 people and, due to the ostensibly advanced & cultured world we live in, I would be confident none of them should be slaves. Being so inflexible with the definition is not the same as being honest. Astrophysicists and statisticians often use the word 'common' to refer to vanishingly small numbers, and us uneducated laypeople are usually just fine with that.
  - kjs3 2y ago
    Being so inflexible with the definition is not the same as being honest. If I said "AB negative blood is common" or "Australians are common", most people wouldn't say I was being 'inflexible' if I said "only 1/3 of 1% isn't that common" and uneducated laypeople (and Australians) are usually just fine with that, too. But it's a hot button topic and the OP want's to derail the thread to it's pet peeve, and there's always someone who wants to pipe up with "I don't like your facts so I'll attack your intent".
    - genewitch 2y ago
      0.3% is still over a million people? A million dollars is a lot of money. A million hours is a long time. This is, after all, the same hackernews that says "80 billion in fraud and waste is only N% of the budget for that" where N sounds smaller than 80 billion. It is in our constitution, and some people are big enough assholes that I almost don't mind; but I know what a railroad is and it isn't hard to imagine a series of events where I am one of those million people. Also it's 5 million people in prison, not 1 million. 5 million is more than 1/3rd of 1%. There's a bit of waffle, is it half a percent? Is it more? Do you not count people who have left prison as having been slaves? I probably have never seen a million unique people in my life, including on TV and movies, nevermind 5 million. But I guess it isn't common. Because I don't understand "large numbers". I have seen a pile of 1,000,000 soda pop can pull tabs on a 30' tarp, so I have a rough idea of how large 1,000,000 is.
      - kjs3 2y ago
        I don't think you had to work so hard to prove "I don't like your facts so I'll attack your intent".
- MomsAVoxell 2y ago
  The Prison-slavery industrial complex is very, very real.
  - kjs3 2y ago
    No one said it wasn't. The articles cited both point it out specifically, and goes into some detail about how unjust it is.

Just a quick reminder, slavery is still common in the United States.

by foxyv 2y ago

Just a quick reminder, slavery is still common in the United States.

kjs3 2y ago

Just a quick reminder, 1/3 of 1% is not 'common'. Unless you (predictably) redefine math and English so you get to be right. https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studies/united-states/ https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studie... https://ourrescue.org/education/research-and-trends/modern-day-slavery https://ourrescue.org/education/research-and-trends/modern-d...

foxyv 2y ago
Only 7 of 50 states ban forced labor. Seems pretty common to me.
samplatt 2y ago
3.3 people per thousand is pretty common for something that isn't meant to exist at all. I could meet 1000 people and, due to the ostensibly advanced & cultured world we live in, I would be confident none of them should be slaves. Being so inflexible with the definition is not the same as being honest. Astrophysicists and statisticians often use the word 'common' to refer to vanishingly small numbers, and us uneducated laypeople are usually just fine with that.
- kjs3 2y ago
  Being so inflexible with the definition is not the same as being honest. If I said "AB negative blood is common" or "Australians are common", most people wouldn't say I was being 'inflexible' if I said "only 1/3 of 1% isn't that common" and uneducated laypeople (and Australians) are usually just fine with that, too. But it's a hot button topic and the OP want's to derail the thread to it's pet peeve, and there's always someone who wants to pipe up with "I don't like your facts so I'll attack your intent".
  - genewitch 2y ago
    0.3% is still over a million people? A million dollars is a lot of money. A million hours is a long time. This is, after all, the same hackernews that says "80 billion in fraud and waste is only N% of the budget for that" where N sounds smaller than 80 billion. It is in our constitution, and some people are big enough assholes that I almost don't mind; but I know what a railroad is and it isn't hard to imagine a series of events where I am one of those million people. Also it's 5 million people in prison, not 1 million. 5 million is more than 1/3rd of 1%. There's a bit of waffle, is it half a percent? Is it more? Do you not count people who have left prison as having been slaves? I probably have never seen a million unique people in my life, including on TV and movies, nevermind 5 million. But I guess it isn't common. Because I don't understand "large numbers". I have seen a pile of 1,000,000 soda pop can pull tabs on a 30' tarp, so I have a rough idea of how large 1,000,000 is.
    - kjs3 2y ago
      I don't think you had to work so hard to prove "I don't like your facts so I'll attack your intent".
MomsAVoxell 2y ago
The Prison-slavery industrial complex is very, very real.
- kjs3 2y ago
  No one said it wasn't. The articles cited both point it out specifically, and goes into some detail about how unjust it is.