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> Animals do cooperate, a lot and frequently. Including predators like lions. There are solitary animals, but cooperation is not rare. That is just pack behavi

> Animals do cooperate, a lot and frequently. Including predators like lions. There are solitary animals, but cooperation is not rare. That is just pack behavior. Animals are nearly always at war among their own for territory, and will often attack other kinds animals that compete for their food sources, unless there is mutual benefit (e.g. deers and monkeys sharing alarm calls for tigers). > Animals do help others and try to protect them from harm. Not their competitors, friend. I've seen all of Sir David Attenboroughs' nature serieses multiple times, save the Antarctica one, including the "Trials of Life" where the decades-ago TV commercial here in America had the line, "the relentless pursuit to continue the bloodline". I know what happens when a bear comes upon a wolfpack's kill. Ain't no sharing there, friend. Lions clawing the balls off a young wandering, trespassing male is the baseline root of animal nature. Any student of history knows this lionine behavior is closer to the driving impetus for human nature than pursuits of selflessly loving peace. "They are like the animals, only worse." That is our negative potential, each and every one of us. Only we have a mind to learn how to contemplate our potential self-evolution and our current amount of progress. And we are free to instead use our minds to just pursue worldly pleasures at the expense of anyone else's happiness. All potentials are available to us, though we cannot escape the price of karma we must each pay, and do, for better or worse, always accurately reaping what we have sown. Not a jot unaccounted for. God's teachings of love are here to help us self-evolve ourselves out of our selfishly animalistic negative potentials towards a peaceful, harmonious universally-compassionate integrated society of equals of different paths and cultures, sans abuse or oppression of any kind. One great example is how Guru Nanak (Sikh founding Guru) set his table where everyone sat together, not stratified by caste. That is the Way of human love, born of God's love for us.

watwut 2y ago
> Animals are nearly always at war among their own for territory, This is not true. Quite a lot of animals are neither territorial nor at war constantly. > will often attack other kinds animals that compete for their food sources You should know that non aggressive animals exist. They are not some kind of exception at all. That being said, people have literal wars over important resources. They are no strangers of systematically abusing half the population or more ... or even enslaving them. There are people who believe empathy is weakness and they won election, because huge amounts of electorate agrees. > , unless there is mutual benefit (e.g. deers and monkeys sharing alarm calls for tigers). Nice example of cooperation. It is no different then humans cooperating with each other. > Not their competitors, friend. What kind of new standard you are putting on in there? How do you define competitor and is it really that different then social behavior of people? Like right now, you see half of America cheering on harm done to other Americans. You see them attacking other countries and people over percieved competition ... that completely their own construction.
- MrMcCall 2y ago
  > What kind of new standard you are putting on in there? We act like animals -- mammals, specifically -- when we do not seek to become more humane, a better humanitarian. > half of America cheering on harm done to other Americans "They are like the animals, only worse." We are the only creatures that can consciously self-evolve ourselves toward complete compassion. That doesn't mean that 90% of us care enough about others to do it, as they obviously don't. That is the reason this world is in the mess it's in. We could choose to compassionately care for our fellow human beings, but most people are too self-absorbed and too self-righteous to take the necessary steps. As to what you say about animals, you're just plain wrong, but you're obviously committed to your worldview, so I wish you good luck with that.

watwut 2y ago

> Animals are nearly always at war among their own for territory, This is not true. Quite a lot of animals are neither territorial nor at war constantly. > will often attack other kinds animals that compete for their food sources You should know that non aggressive animals exist. They are not some kind of exception at all. That being said, people have literal wars over important resources. They are no strangers of systematically abusing half the population or more ... or even enslaving them. There are people who believe empathy is weakness and they won election, because huge amounts of electorate agrees. > , unless there is mutual benefit (e.g. deers and monkeys sharing alarm calls for tigers). Nice example of cooperation. It is no different then humans cooperating with each other. > Not their competitors, friend. What kind of new standard you are putting on in there? How do you define competitor and is it really that different then social behavior of people? Like right now, you see half of America cheering on harm done to other Americans. You see them attacking other countries and people over percieved competition ... that completely their own construction.

MrMcCall 2y ago
> What kind of new standard you are putting on in there? We act like animals -- mammals, specifically -- when we do not seek to become more humane, a better humanitarian. > half of America cheering on harm done to other Americans "They are like the animals, only worse." We are the only creatures that can consciously self-evolve ourselves toward complete compassion. That doesn't mean that 90% of us care enough about others to do it, as they obviously don't. That is the reason this world is in the mess it's in. We could choose to compassionately care for our fellow human beings, but most people are too self-absorbed and too self-righteous to take the necessary steps. As to what you say about animals, you're just plain wrong, but you're obviously committed to your worldview, so I wish you good luck with that.