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Where do all of these "unqualifieds" come from if the startup is just going to hire through friends and recommendations; was there a public job listing somewher
by mnicole 14y ago
Where do all of these "unqualifieds" come from if the startup is just going to hire through friends and recommendations; was there a public job listing somewhere? If there's a job listing, people are going to apply for the job. They're applying to see where they stand, they're applying to fill a quota for unemployment, they're applying because they need a job. Can any company handle all of the applicants it receives? This seems like a weak complaint.
> In the aftermath of his first interview, he has been getting in touch with all his close engineer friends and asking them to write to the company founder recommending him.
This sounds incredibly obnoxious unless your friends are well-known engineers. Has this worked for anyone here?
- brianlash 14y agoMaybe my industry (consulting) is different but yes, absolutely yes, this is a tactic with nice ROI. I can't think of a single good reason not to leverage your existing contacts.
- mnicole 14y agoReferences and testimonials, LinkedIn, Zerply, Github, et al? Maybe I'm too suspicious; if after an initial interview I got a stream of emails from an applicant's buddies/colleagues that I didn't ask for, I'd wonder why he felt he needed to coerce them to do so. I also think it's a bit dangerous to latch someone's technical skills to their social aptitude. Everyone has friends, not everyone thinks it is professional to sweet-talk a founder on your friend's behalf. I'd love to hear what others think, though.
- brianlash 14y agoI think it comes down to discretion. I would never recommend flooding an interviewer with internal email, but one helpful nudge from a respected colleague who vouches for you won't hurt.
- rwallace 14y agoI can think of a good reason: it's a negative sum game, because willingness to proxy-spam a potential employer has no positive correlation with the ability to do the job; if people start doing this, everyone will be worse off. So if you're an employer and you don't want to end up on the receiving end of this kind of spam every time you hire and under pressure to send it every time one of your friends is looking for a job, you should reject anyone who tries this tactic.
- lazerwalker 14y agoAccording to the article, the person in question was applying for a technical recruiter role. Given that the biggest problem tech recruiters at startups face is arguably getting top-level engineering talent to give them the time of day, I'd say that a stunt involving getting a lot of talented engineers to talk about how much they like and respect you is completely justified and appropriate.
- mnicole 14y agoPerhaps where I'm getting tangled is in using the term "friends" instead of past recruits or former hiring managers. Regardless, I still think it's a poor practice, given that -- like rwallace said -- if everyone did it, it would just create even more emails that the OP needed to add to their laundry list.