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it seems that this free version "may use your prompts and completions to train new models" https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-chat-v3-0324:free https://op
by chaosprint 2y ago
it seems that this free version "may use your prompts and completions to train new models"
https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-chat-v3-0324:free https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-chat-v3-0324:free
do you think this needs attention?
- deleted 2y ago[deleted]
- wgd 2y agoThat's typical of the free options on OpenRouter, if you don't want your inputs used for training you use the paid one: https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-chat-v3-0324 https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-chat-v3-0324
- overfeed 2y agoIs OpenRouter planning on distilling models off the prompts and responses from frontier models? That's smart - a little gross - but smart.
- numlocked 2y agoCOO of OpenRouter here. We are simply stating the WE can’t vouch for the behavior of the upstream provider’s retention and training policy. We don’t save your prompt data, regardless of the model you use, unless you explicitly opt-in to logging (in exchange for a 1% inference discount).
- simonw 2y agoThat 1% discount feels a bit cheap to me - if it was a 25% or 50% discount I would be much more likely to sign up for it.
- numlocked 2y agoWe don’t particularly want our customers’ data :)
- oofbaroomf 2y agoYeah, but Openrouter has a 5% surcharge anyway.
- YetAnotherNick 2y agoBetter way to state is 20% of surcharge then :)
- vintermann 2y agoYou clearly want it a little if you give a discount for it?
- overfeed 2y agoI'm glad to hear you are not hoovering up this data for your own purposes.
- huijzer 2y agoSince we are on HN here, I can highly recommend open-webui with some OpenAI-compatible provider. I'm running with Deep Infra for more than a year now and am very happy. New models are usually available within one or two days after release. Also have some friends who use the service almost daily.
- unquietwiki 2y agoI'm using open-webui at home with a couple of different models. gemma2-9b fits in VRAM on a NV 3060 card + performs nicely.
- l72 2y agoI too run openweb-ui locally and use deepinfra.com as my backend. It has been working very well, and I am quite happy with deepinfra's pricing and privacy policy. I have set up the same thing at work for my colleagues, and they find it better than openai for their tasks.
- jychang 2y agoYeah, openweb-ui is the best frontend for API queries. Everything seems to work well. I've tried LibreChat before, but the app is terrible at generating titles for chats instead of leaving it as "New Chat". Also it lacks a working Code Interpreter.
- TechDebtDevin 2y agoThats because its a 3rd party API someone is hosting and trying to arb the infra cost or mine training data, or maybe something even more sinister. I stay away from open router API's that aren't served by reputable well known companies, and even then...
- behnamoh 2y agogood grief! people are okay with it when OpenAI and Google do it, but as soon as open source providers do it, people get defensive about it...
- chaosprint 2y agono. it's nothing to do with deepseek. it's openrouter and providers there
- londons_explore 2y agoI trust big companies far more with my data than small ones. Big companies have so much data they won't be having a human look at mine specifically. Some small place probably has the engineer looking at my logs as user #4. Also, big companies have security teams whose job is securing the data, and it won't be going over some unencrypted link to cloudflare because OP was too lazy to set up Https certs.
- henry2023 2y agoEquifax.
- jimmygrapes 2y agoI'm not convinced any humans have worked there for most of my lifetime.
- madduci 2y agoAs always, avoid using sensitive information and you are good to go
- rcdwealth 2y ago[dead]